Reaching out of your area

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Randa16

Nothing ticks me off more then my partner calling a foul or violation in my area.

My pregame: Call in your area. Call in my area, too.

[mattmets]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

My pregame: Call in your area. Call in my area, too.

I worked 6 games today in a tournament and after two of them one of my partners (who I've worked with a decent amount) apologized for coming in my area (T) as the C to get some contact I was straightlined or blocked out on. I told him I'm just going to ask if you are sure you got the call right. If you are I won't say another word. I'll only think about getting upset if you come in and take away a good non-call, otherwise we need to just get them right.

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by Randa16

Nothing ticks me off more then my partner calling a foul or violation in my area. In high school games if you pull this crap the first time you get a loook, the second you a head shake and the third we are going to have a conversation you will not like at halftime or after the game. I still do youth games and that is a train wreck of officials who call outside their area. I had a partner in lead position call travel at half court one time, I reversed the call and told him to stay the F out of my area before I get mad. I don’t call other areas for 2 reasons, it’s your job and your area and second it looks bad when

Tough guy! You sound like a train wreck of an official!

[LRZ]

Randa16, even assuming your territoriality is appropriate, your actions (head shaking, reversing a partner's call) can only make the situation worse. Save your anger for the locker room at half-time or post-game, away from the public eye.

[Randa16]

I have put in years at being a good ref. Do I miss calls? Yes a few a year but the last thing I need is some old guy trying to be super ref and not watch his area. The call I reversed was because he was way out of position, I was standing right there, it was a bad call and he is not going to make me look stupid. You all can not like it all you want but you know the kind of ref I am talking about.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Randa16

I have put in years at being a good ref. Do I miss calls? Yes a few a year but the last thing I need is some old guy trying to be super ref and not watch his area. The call I reversed was because he was way out of position, I was standing right there, it was a bad call and he is not going to make me look stupid. You all can not like it all you want but you know the kind of ref I am talking about.

Then you might want to move up to a level where you don't have to deal with that.

I'm still trying to envision this unpleasant conversation. Is it a conversation where you berate your partner and he just sits there and takes it?

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by Randa16

I have put in years at being a good ref. Do I miss calls? Yes a few a year but the last thing I need is some old guy trying to be super ref and not watch his area. The call I reversed was because he was way out of position, I was standing right there, it was a bad call and he is not going to make me look stupid. You all can not like it all you want but you know the kind of ref I am talking about.

No good ref reverses a call like you were talking about. Make you look stupid? How about what you did to your partner?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Randa16

I have put in years at being a good ref. Do I miss calls? Yes a few a year but the last thing I need is some old guy trying to be super ref and not watch his area. The call I reversed was because he was way out of position, I was standing right there, it was a bad call and he is not going to make me look stupid. You all can not like it all you want but you know the kind of ref I am talking about.

Well if you want to move up the ranks, ever, you will deal with "old guys" doing all kinds of things and calling all kinds of things and you better not every act that way towards them or you will have a short career. IJS.

Peace

[hamnegger]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I totally agree with most of your comments, I just do not think this is a foul. At least not one that stands out so much that all would agree. There are certainly calls I would suggest should be called even from that position, but this is not one of them IMO.

Peace

I really saw nothing much here either. This would, to me, not fit into the "a must come get".

[hamnegger]

Originally Posted by Randa16

I have put in years at being a good ref. Do I miss calls? Yes a few a year but the last thing I need is some old guy trying to be super ref and not watch his area. The call I reversed was because he was way out of position, I was standing right there, it was a bad call and he is not going to make me look stupid. You all can not like it all you want but you know the kind of ref I am talking about.

1. Only a few missed calls a year? Wow!
2. It is not about us not liking it but you have chosen to flat out violate a rule which states no official has the authority to change another officials ruling. You just took a mistake and compounded it.

My goal for every game is to be under 1.5 IC's per game and hopefully under 2.5 INC's.

[MechanicGuy]

Originally Posted by randa16

i have put in years at being a good ref. do i miss calls? Yes a few a year but the last thing i need is some old guy trying to be super ref and not watch his area. The call i reversed was because he was way out of position, i was standing right there, it was a bad call and he is not going to make me look stupid. You all can not like it all you want but you know the kind of ref i am talking about.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Randa16

Do I miss calls? Yes a few a year ...

[Randa16]

I do high school games and have done a little community College. I still do youth only because they are always short officials and I am friends with the guys who assigns games and he flips me extra money to cover. . High school no problems 95% of the time. Youth is a train wreck.

[Raymond]

As long as you do Youth ball you will get "train wreck" partners. And any of those partners old enough to have teenagers of their own aren't going to sit around the locker room (or whatever changing area you have) while you berate them for calling in your area.