Iaabo charter membership

[BillyMac]

From all the money that I give to my local IAABO board through dues and fees ($125.00 dues, $150.00 fees), approximately $35.00 goes directly to IAABO International.

The rest goes to running my local board, paying the assignment commissioner, stipends for officers (secretary/treasurer, assistant commissioner, interpreter), membership in our state interscholastic sports governing body, Arbiter fee, scholarships, banquet ($30.00 each), meeting facilities, hearing impaired interpreter, etc., stuff that most non-IAABO associations have to pay.

So what do I get for my $35.00 annual dues that go directly to IAABO International? I get the benefit of all the instructional resources that IAABO International provides, including instructional DVDs that are used by my local interpreters and trainers. I get an annual combined NFHS Rulebook and IAABO Mechanics Manual. I get an educational magazine several times a year. I have an opportunity to attend twice a year conventions to discuss rules, mechanics, and the instruction of such. I get some liability insurance.

I am aware of FIBA getting the short shrift, but IAABO International has been trying to improve it's FIBA training over the past few years, and will hopefully eventually get fully onboard the FIBA train.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

From all the money that I give to my local IAABO board through dues and fees ($125.00 dues, $150.00 fees), approximately $35.00 goes directly to IAABO International.

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$275.00 to work on a HS board? That officiating shortage will not be ending anytime soon.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

$275.00 to work on a HS board? That officiating shortage will not be ending anytime soon.

Varsity fee: $97.17, subvarsity fee: $63.05; and exclusive rights to officiate all high school and prep school games in the state (within our local geographic area), as well as almost all middle schools, cost isn't a major issue for most.

If you don't belong, and don't pay your dues and fees, you don't work high school games anywhere in the state.

We had a member suggest to make our annual banquet (it's about $30.00 each, appetizers during cocktail hour, open bar, cloth tablecloths, and napkins) a cash bar banquet to save money. That didn't go over big with the membership.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Varsity fee: $97.17, subvarsity fee: $63.05; and exclusive rights to officiate all high school and prep school games in the state (within our local geographic area), as well as almost all middle schools, cost isn't a major issue for most.

If you don't belong, and don't pay your dues and fees, you don't work high school games anywhere in the state.

We had a member suggest to make our annual banquet (it's about $30.00 each, appetizers during cocktail hour, open bar, cloth tablecloths, and napkins) a cash bar banquet to save money. That didn't go over big with the membership.

What does any of that have to do with extortion level fees/dues a newbie would have to pay just to start out?

So I repeat, your officiating shortage will not be going anywhere for a while. I would insulted if someone solicited me to throw in an additional $30 for a "banquet".

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

... would insulted if someone solicited me to throw in an additional $30 for a "banquet".

I apologize for being unclear, the banquet is built into everybody's annual dues (and the annual board budget), even if one doesn't go.

Of course this means that the approximately 33% of us that don't go subsidize the 67% of us that actually go, meaning the banquet cost per plate is actually more than the $30.00 per member that is built into our budget.

The banquet is a little too classy for my taste. When I started almost forty years ago we had our banquet in a church hall with a local caterer, eight foot folding tables, with paper tablecloths, and folding bridge chairs.

Then, for some reason, we upped the ante. Now we have our banquet at some of the finalist banquet facilities in the state.

Personally, I wouldn't mind if they deducted $30.00 from our annual dues ($95.00 instead of $125.00) and made the year end banquet and awards ceremony a pay as you go affair, including a cash bar.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

What does any of that have to do with extortion level fees/dues a newbie would have to pay just to start out?

Extortion is a strong word, but not too far removed from being accurate.

As a 100% IAABO state, with no other high school assigners except local IAABO assigners, if you don't belong to IAABO, and don't pay your dues and fees, you don't work high school games anywhere in the state.

To compare it to other associations, apples to apples:

Our annual dues ($125.00) is approximately equal to two subvarsity fees ($63.05).

We all pay a 7% assignment fee (7% of our income) regardless of the level we officiate.

Is that grossly unfair compared to other associations?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Extortion is a strong word, but not too far removed from being accurate.

As a 100% IAABO state, with no other high school assigners except local IAABO assigners, if you don't belong to IAABO, and don't pay your dues and fees, you don't work high school games anywhere in the state.

To compare it to other associations, apples to apples:

Our annual dues ($125.00) is approximately equal to two subvarsity fees ($63.05).

We all pay a 7% assignment fee (7% of our income) regardless of the level we officiate.

Is that grossly unfair compared to other associations?

$40 to the state, $45 to the association here. $35 if you choose to join IAABO annually.

So not only do you have a monopoly in your state, they charge exorbitant prices just to work for them. That is some kind of graft in my opinion.

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

$40 to the state, $45 to the association here. $35 if you choose to join IAABO annually. So not only do you have a monopoly in your state, they charge exorbitant prices just to work for them.

Putting aside the assignment fee, our annual dues of $125 includes the fee to the state and IAABO International dues.

Seems like your IAABO members (if they choose to) are paying $120.00 annually. Your non IAABO members are paying $85.00 per year.

So we're paying $40.00 more than your non IAABO members, and getting a classy (too classy in my opinion) meal at the end of the year (and membership to IAABO).

I'm not saying that our dues are not expensive, but let's compare apples to apples.

$125.00 is twice a subvarsity fee for us.

The double subvarsity fee gets one an annual membership in our local board, state membership, membership in IAABO International (includes NFHS rulebooks, casebooks, and mechanics manuals), a too classy meal at a high end banquet facility, and exclusive access to high school assignments (no competition from other organizations), thus no additional dues or fees to other high school assigning organizations (I've learned that many Forum members belong to more than one high school assigning organization).

All for the cost of two subvarsity fees.

How does that compare to your annual dues of $85.00?

How may subvarsity fees does it take to cover $85.00 (your non IAABO members)?

How may subvarsity fees does it take to cover $120.00 (your IAABO members)?

How many of your members belong to other high school assigning (and pay additional dues or fees) organizations (I've learned that many Forum members belong to more than one high school assigning organization).

[constable]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

From all the money that I give to my local IAABO board through dues and fees ($125.00 dues, $150.00 fees), approximately $35.00 goes directly to IAABO International.

The rest goes to running my local board, paying the assignment commissioner, stipends for officers (secretary/treasurer, assistant commissioner, interpreter), membership in our state interscholastic sports governing body, Arbiter fee, scholarships, banquet ($30.00 each), meeting facilities, hearing impaired interpreter, etc., stuff that most non-IAABO associations have to pay.

So what do I get for my $35.00 annual dues that go directly to IAABO International? I get the benefit of all the instructional resources that IAABO International provides, including instructional DVDs that are used by my local interpreters and trainers. I get an annual combined NFHS Rulebook and IAABO Mechanics Manual. I get an educational magazine several times a year. I have an opportunity to attend twice a year conventions to discuss rules, mechanics, and the instruction of such. I get some liability insurance.

I am aware of FIBA getting the short shrift, but IAABO International has been trying to improve it's FIBA training over the past few years, and will hopefully eventually get fully onboard the FIBA train.

Butttttttt

If you were able to get that stuff for free else, would you still be on-board with spending the 35 to IAABO?

If they gave us additional insurance (similar to NASO) or something like that, then it might seem like a more worthwhile venture.



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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by constable

If you were able to get that stuff for free else, would you still be on-board with spending the 35 to IAABO?

Instructional resources, including instructional DVDs, and training of trainers, annual NFHS Rulebook, Casebook, and Mechanics Manual, educational magazine several times a year, opportunities to attend twice a year conventions to discuss rules, mechanics, and the instruction of such, all for free?

Who doesn't like free?

When did the NFHS start offering rulebooks, casebooks, and mechanics manuals for free?