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Old Wed Jul 11, 2018, 01:35pm
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So what do you do when you are followed to the parking lot?
What do I do? I keep walking at a fast pace, get into my car and drive away.

What do you recommend?
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Old Wed Jul 11, 2018, 01:40pm
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What do I do? I keep walking at a fast pace, get into my car and drive away.

What do you recommend?
You can do whatever you wish. I am just saying that you can run but might not have a place to run to as easily as you claim you do. You might not have a locker room or a secure room if this is not a very organized situation. If you have noticed, I never told you to do whatever you wish, just pointing out that your solution in many venues is short-sighted. Because if stuff goes down and you are cornered, you might do all kinds of things or have to. Again, easy to judge sitting on a computer.

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Old Wed Jul 11, 2018, 02:09pm
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There is a point after the first attack that the situation could have ended without further incident.

That being said, I believe some here are holding these basketball officials to a higher standard than they hold any other people, professions or people in positions of authority. We are still human; the stripes we wear aren't some magic cape that make us impervious to human emotions and reactions.
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Old Wed Jul 11, 2018, 06:07pm
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Quite frankly, I just think it's laughable the way some of us claim to be holier-than-thou while sitting behind a computer screen. Who's to say none of us would have reacted the same way?

And again, I just don't really think the normal rules that we think of in our avocation have to apply when it comes to street ball like this. If an official wants to stand up for himself in a crapshoot tournament, good for him. And if a punk player or coach wants to take a swing, I applaud you for defending yourself even if it was a little over the top.
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Old Wed Jul 11, 2018, 06:14pm
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Quite frankly, I just think it's laughable the way some of us claim to be holier-than-thou while sitting behind a computer screen. Who's to say none of us would have reacted the same way?

And again, I just don't really think the normal rules that we think of in our avocation have to apply when it comes to street ball like this. If an official wants to stand up for himself in a crapshoot tournament, good for him. And if a punk player or coach wants to take a swing, I applaud you for defending yourself even if it was a little over the top.
It's not holier-than-thou, it's what rational, mature ADULTS should try to do, at all costs, when working in an environment with MINORS. If you think you would get a different opinion from law enforcement professionals, then I think that's pretty laughable......
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Old Wed Jul 11, 2018, 09:35pm
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It's not holier-than-thou, it's what rational, mature ADULTS should try to do, at all costs, when working in an environment with MINORS. If you think you would get a different opinion from law enforcement professionals, then I think that's pretty laughable......
Again, I think we're holding these officials to a higher standard than we hold other people who are in positions of authority during situations like this.

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Old Wed Jul 11, 2018, 10:35pm
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Again, I think we're holding these officials to a higher standard than we hold other people who are in positions of authority during situations like this.

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I don't know what kind of people you're normally around but I wouldn't expect most people I'm normally around in my day-to-day life to respond like that, ever. That sort of response is simply not mature in any way.
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Old Thu Jul 12, 2018, 12:16am
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Again, I think we're holding these officials to a higher standard than we hold other people who are in positions of authority during situations like this.

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Positions of authority in the general sense, or positions of authority over minors/youth? BIG difference, for many different reasons.

I can think of no situation where I would be ok with a school principal or teacher doing what that official did, say if a student initiated violence with a push or a punch. Neither would this be acceptable for a youth coach in any sport, who's first instinct and reaction was to 'fight back' or charge a minor who he is coaching. So frankly, I cannot think of any position of authority of minors where I would think it would be reasonable to have the initial or first instinct to fight back or defend myself physically. Only the very last resort when all other options fail.....
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