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Old Sat Mar 10, 2018, 04:49pm
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Two lines

A lead cannot call across both lane lines like that, it's the C's call
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Old Sat Mar 10, 2018, 05:19pm
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A lead cannot call across both lane lines like that, it's the C's call
It was almost also across the 3 point line he was so far off the lane.
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Old Sat Mar 10, 2018, 05:24pm
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He needs to hustle to get to the baseline earlier. After that, the centre should have first crack.
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Old Sat Mar 10, 2018, 05:59pm
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Secondary defender, Lead's play. Lead needs to be at closedown if not one step into the paint.
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Old Sat Mar 10, 2018, 06:15pm
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My favorite part is that the L immediately signals the player control foul, then tells his partner to take it.
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Old Sat Mar 10, 2018, 06:27pm
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Secondary defender, Lead's play. Lead needs to be at closedown if not one step into the paint.

1) As I stated before not only was the L late in getting to the End Line he had a competitive match-up right in front of him on his side of the FT Lane. That means this is the C's play all the way to the Basket.

2) This is a game being played under NFHS Rules, therefore they is no such thing as a "secondary defender". The NBC (divided into the NFHS and NCAA Men's) Rules Committee wrote the Guarding Rule upon the principal that a Player should expect to be Guarded from the instant he/she gains Control of the Ball until he/she no longer has Control of the Ball. That means there is no such thing as a "secondary defender" because the Ball Handler must expect to be Guarded at all times.

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Old Sat Mar 10, 2018, 11:02pm
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OP contained 2 questions: How should it be handled and whose call is it?

I agree with Arem. Secondary defender came to help. C had the primary defender and can't really watch two defenders simultaneously with great accuracy. IMO, it is L's call.

I, with great respect, disagree with Mark T. as there still can be a "secondary" defender. It may not fit certain definitions of associations but for purely descriptive purposes, it works. Also, I do not feel that the L had a "competitive matchup" as they were doing nothing to warrant L's attention.

Now, everyone has already described how it should have been handled. IMO, L should have been ball side. When the ball crossed half-court, he should have been in a close-down position. When the ball went to the wing, he should have then initiated a rotation. Again, just my opinion.
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Old Sat Mar 10, 2018, 11:05pm
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OP contained 2 questions: How should it be handled and whose call is it?

I agree with Arem. Secondary defender came to help. C had the primary defender and can't really watch two defenders simultaneously with great accuracy. IMO, it is L's call.

I, with great respect, disagree with Mark T. as there still can be a "secondary" defender. It may not fit certain definitions of associations but for purely descriptive purposes, it works. Also, I do not feel that the L had a "competitive matchup" as they were doing nothing to warrant L's attention.

Now, everyone has already described how it should have been handled. IMO, L should have been ball side. When the ball crossed half-court, he should have been in a close-down position. When the ball went to the wing, he should have then initiated a rotation. Again, just my opinion.
Well said bucky. I disagree about the rotation, they had just gotten in the frontcourt from transition and it would have been a very quick rotation. I'm not even sure the Lead would have made it all the way across before the play happens. Plus an immediate drive from the wing should freeze the Lead from coming across. At minimum the Lead should be at close down and refereeing the secondary defender because Slot still has to cover the primary defender who is now behind the offensive player.
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