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The actual text of rule 10-4-3 is: "A player shall not: ...Grasp either basket at any time during the game except to prevent injury; dunk or stuff, or attempt to dunk or stuff a dead ball." The phrase starting with "except to..." ends at the semicolon. Nothing after the semicolon is part of the exception. A separate thought begins with "dunk or stuff, ..." Here is how a semicolon is used in writing.
1. A player shall not grasp either basket at any time during the game except to prevent injury. 2. A player shall not dunk or stuff, or attempt to dunk or stuff a dead ball. Save
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So, everyone here, including myself, has not been issuing a T for dunking when threat of injury is absent. Hey, my tagline comes into play again. Unless of course a different rule/case/citation dictates otherwise.
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(To be clear -- it's only illegal to dunk (or attempt to dunk) a dead ball.) |
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I think dunking in itself has a threat of injury just with the fact of what you are doing. No one in their right mind is going to penalize someone when their momentum is stopped out of the air because they grab something. I would want players to feel comfortable that they are not going to land wrong when they let go. That is a lot different than pulling up or swinging excessively. Peace
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What about it? It said nothing about not being able to dunk. But, read literally, it says that while dunking you can't grasp the rim.
The interpretation used to be closer to literal than it is now. But even back when the hand wrapping and instantly letting go (as in the video) wasn't called. And I think it was in the 80s that the language was added about holding on for protection. When I watch HS games, it seems that the exception largely swallowed the rule--absent showboating few refs are going to say that a player stayed on the rim other than to protect himself. (I think the permissiveness pendulum has swung too far, but its hard to believe it will swing back--and if it does, calling a T on the dunk in the video is swinging way too far the other direction.) |
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Plus, as has been indicated in other threads, the player initiates the threat by grabbing. Here is an idea, mitigate the threat by not grabbing.
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You. I'm not sure why I'm responding, as it is pretty clear if you read what he wrote, or if you pay attention to what Bob already posted.
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1. A player shall not grasp either basket at any time during the game except to prevent injury.
2. A player shall not dunk or stuff, or attempt to dunk or stuff a dead ball. Penalty = Technical foul. 1. This is rarely, and I mean rarely, ever called, especially as a percentage. 2. I have neither seen a T, nor anything else, called for that. Let's face it, dunking and grasping the rim is a rule that is rarely enforced. I say eliminate it. Do not eliminate excessive grabbing, hanging, pulling, etc. but merely a grasp should be allowed by rule.
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