OOB plays - TO timeframe and delays

[bbman]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

1a) Yes, grant the TO; 1b) This is kind of a circular question, and we don't know whether the official was correct in not starting the count. But, the "expiration of time to grant a TO" and "the proper time to start the count" occur at the same instant.

2) It's never a delay warning. Start the count if the ball is available to B (or whatever the specific rule book wording is)

2. I know it would be very unusual for this to happen, but I looked, where's the rule reference for your ruling on this type of play? After all, it is a delay of game.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by bbman

2. I know it would be very unusual for this to happen, but I looked, where's the rule reference for your ruling on this type of play? After all, it is a delay of game.

The correct ruling for a violation here would be a 5 second inbounds violation. Delay of game has to do with a team that PREVENTS the game from continuing. If the defense swats the ball away it is a delay of game or a T (depending on time of game and the circumstances).

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bbman

2. I know it would be very unusual for this to happen, but I looked, where's the rule reference for your ruling on this type of play? After all, it is a delay of game.

I can't prove a negative. To be a delay warning, it must meet one of the 4 delay warning scenarios in 4-Warning (45? 47? something like that). It doesn't so it's not a warning

If you think B could have the ball OOB, and doesn't -- start the count.