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Old Wed Jul 19, 2006, 03:50pm
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F2 delays game

While I'm at it, would like your opinions on this one, not spelled out in any rule book I can find.

Yes, this happens most often in LL, but I've seen it at frosh and JV levels, too.

After a pitch, R2 or R3 jumps to a big lead, daring F2 to throw him out. F2 decides one of these three:

a) Run at the runner
b) Make 435 fakes at the runner
c) Walk the ball back to F1

I say all of this delays the game. I once had (b) so glaringly that I warned the offense that I would eject F2 for delaying the game, which led to a major sh&tter (but no EJ). I maintain such an ejection is warranted, but how do warn/cajole/wheedle/eject/move the friggin' game along?

Your thoughts and experiences appreciated.

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Old Wed Jul 19, 2006, 06:25pm
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Talking Let this soak in first

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I say all of this delays the game. I once had (b) so glaringly that I warned the offense that I would eject F2 for delaying the game, which led to a major sh&tter (but no EJ). I maintain such an ejection is warranted, but how do warn/cajole/wheedle/eject/move the friggin' game along?
Your thoughts and experiences appreciated.
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Why did you warn the offense?

I know, a mental lapse, but I wanted to punch you before SDS.

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Old Wed Jul 19, 2006, 07:28pm
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it's just attrocious baseball....but not much you can do

My son is 12 and plays in such games. The runner goes 15 feet, dances around a bit, the catcher fakes a bunch of times, eventually throws the ball back to the pitcher (or, at times, roughly into the woods). It's nauseating....and is best cleared up by knowledgeable coaches who say things like "Throw the ball back to the pitcher".
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Old Wed Jul 19, 2006, 10:13pm
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I used to give them a few seconds to play this bush game, then it was, "TIME. Runner back to your base. Catcher get the ball back to the pitcher. Let's play baseball."

Unless you get paid by the hour.

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Old Wed Jul 19, 2006, 10:35pm
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call a delay of game penalty. pitcher moves up 5 yards, repeat the count.
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Old Thu Jul 20, 2006, 06:31am
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While I'm at it, would like your opinions on this one, not spelled out in any rule book I can find.

Yes, this happens most often in LL, but I've seen it at frosh and JV levels, too.

After a pitch, R2 or R3 jumps to a big lead, daring F2 to throw him out. F2 decides one of these three:

a) Run at the runner
b) Make 435 fakes at the runner
c) Walk the ball back to F1

I say all of this delays the game. I once had (b) so glaringly that I warned the offense that I would eject F2 for delaying the game, which led to a major sh&tter (but no EJ). I maintain such an ejection is warranted, but how do warn/cajole/wheedle/eject/move the friggin' game along?

Your thoughts and experiences appreciated.

Ace
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They will fix it.

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Old Thu Jul 20, 2006, 06:43am
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My question is - who is really delaying the game? Is it the catcher trying to get the runner back to the bag or is it the runner dancing and juking around? If there is no dancing, then there would be no delay.
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Old Thu Jul 20, 2006, 06:46am
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My question is - who is really delaying the game? Is it the catcher trying to get the runner back to the bag or is it the runner dancing and juking around? If there is no dancing, then there would be no delay.
IMHO: Runner has every right to juke here; he is putting himself at risk of being put out, no?

BTW: I told catcher to make a play on the runner or get the rock back to F1.

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Old Thu Jul 20, 2006, 07:03am
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IMHO: Runner has every right to juke here; he is putting himself at risk of being put out, no?

BTW: I told catcher to make a play on the runner or get the rock back to F1.

Ace
That'll work until the catcher throws the ball into centerfield because "the ump told me to...."
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Old Thu Jul 20, 2006, 08:22am
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Ther's really not much you can you can do with this. Talk to both skippers, they'll probably help. If not, when it's obvious that the reunner is no longer trying to advance, call "TIME," very loudly. It should stop after that.
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