OOB plays - TO timeframe and delays

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bd41flpk

May I solicit rules and interpretations on these plays:

(1) Team-A (behind at the end of a game) scores a 2-point basket and then Team-B quickly grabs the ball .... (b) already OOB with the ball - BOTH prior the official starting the 5-second count....can Team-A legally still call a TO ? I say yes as the official has not yet started their 5-second count. Rule/Opinion?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

1a) Yes, grant the TO; 1b) This is kind of a circular question, and we don't know whether the official was correct in not starting the count. But, the "expiration of time to grant a TO" and "the proper time to start the count" occur at the same instant.

For me, in situation (b), I consider it too late and start a count when the player is OOB AND has turned around (ignoring deliberate delay). I have never seen a player make a throwin with his/her back to the court and I think they should have the 5 full seconds to make the throwin.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

For me, in situation (b), I consider it too late and start a count when the player is OOB AND has turned around (ignoring deliberate delay). I have never seen a player make a throwin with his/her back to the court and I think they should have the 5 full seconds to make the throwin.

I agree -- and meant to put that example in my reply. thanks for adding it.

[bd41flpk]

Thank you for the replies.....

May I construe that the Team-A (who has just scored) has the capability to call a TO up to the point of when the official has 'commenced' his/her 5-second count? The answer would be twofold: 1) Team-B member has the ball OOB and 2) the official now recognizes that Team-B member is at the 'ready' to start the inbound pass ( e.g. is now facing the court with the ball.

Thank you.....

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bd41flpk

Thank you for the replies.....

May I construe that the Team-A (who has just scored) has the capability to call a TO up to the point of when the official has 'commenced' his/her 5-second count? The answer would be twofold: 1) Team-B member has the ball OOB and 2) the official now recognizes that Team-B member is at the 'ready' to start the inbound pass ( e.g. is now facing the court with the ball.

Thank you.....

Yes

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bd41flpk

Thank you for the replies.....

May I construe that the Team-A (who has just scored) has the capability to call a TO up to the point of when the official has 'commenced' his/her 5-second count? The answer would be twofold: 1) Team-B member has the ball OOB and 2) the official now recognizes that Team-B member is at the 'ready' to start the inbound pass ( e.g. is now facing the court with the ball.

Thank you.....

Well...

Team A can be granted a TO until the ball is at the disposal of Team B. Once the ball is at the disposal, the count should begin.