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Old Tue Feb 19, 2019, 09:25am
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Is your point that he shouldn't have had a whistle? I disagree.

Is your point that he should have waited until the try was over (made or missed)? I agree.
Exactly this. I told him to wait until the try was missed and he said “that’s not the what it says in the book”.
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Old Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:54am
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... the IAABO Officials' Manual doesn't say anything about it either way.
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2018-2019 IAABO Significant Manual Revisions

End of Quarter/Period Procedures. By rule, the game clock horn signals the end of the quarter/period unless there is a ball in flight on a try for goal. Officials should not sound the whistle to signify the end of the quarter/period unless they are ruling that the try was not released prior to the sounding of the horn.

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Old Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:59pm
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… Officials should not sound the whistle to signify the end of the quarter/period unless they are ruling that the try was not released prior to the sounding of the horn.
This.

Definitely a when in Rome thing, obviously. Where I work, a whistle to end the period is a dead giveaway of a hack official … whereas it's clearly the exact opposite in other parts of the country.

Do as you were taught, I guess … as long as you were taught by someone good!
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:28am
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Now it does:

2018-2019 IAABO Significant Manual Revisions

End of Quarter/Period Procedures. By rule, the game clock horn signals the end of the quarter/period unless there is a ball in flight on a try for goal. Officials should not sound the whistle to signify the end of the quarter/period unless they are ruling that the try was not released prior to the sounding of the horn.

As usual, when in Rome ...
This mechanic is what I was taught twenty years ago and it makes sense.
The rules state that the horn ends the period, unless a try is in flight. So when there is no try to handle, what would a whistle after the horn signify? Consult your Shakespeare here.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:40pm
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It makes sense. I don't get why I am expected to blow the whistle at the end of the period with no try when I am working non-IAABO games. Is that because the whisthe is required at the end of the period in the NFHS manual, or is it just cultural expectations? I don't blow the whistle if there is no try, unless the gym I am in has no horn (usually the case for rec games). I only blow the whistle at the end of timeouts, to begin periods, or if the throw-in comes after an extended delay.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:43pm
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This mechanic is what I was taught twenty years ago and it makes sense.
The rules state that the horn ends the period, unless a try is in flight. So when there is no try to handle, what would a whistle after the horn signify? Consult your Shakespeare here.
It might signify that the horn was valid because at any other time when the ball sounds during play, we tell the players to ignore it and play on.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:01pm
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I only blow the whistle at the end of timeouts, to begin periods, or if the throw-in comes after an extended delay.
Here in my little corner of 100% IAABO Connecticut, we've recently been encouraged to sound our whistle before a free throw after a timeout. I know that it's "by the book", but not many of us do it, not now, and not over the past four decades.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:02pm
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It might signify that the horn was valid because at any other time when the ball sounds during play, we tell the players to ignore it and play on.
Good point. We've heard from IAABO, what does the NFHS say?

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Old Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:46pm
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Here in my little corner of 100% IAABO Connecticut, we've recently been encouraged to sound our whistle before a free throw after a timeout. I know that it's "by the book", but not many of us do it, not now, and not over the past four decades.
I've thought about that, but it just seems so awkward and unnecessary.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2019, 05:09pm
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Here in my little corner of 100% IAABO Connecticut, we've recently been encouraged to sound our whistle before a free throw after a timeout. I know that it's "by the book", but not many of us do it, not now, and not over the past four decades.
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I've thought about that, but it just seems so awkward and unnecessary.
I do it. Especially helps when you are in venues that have DJ's or bands playing music during time-outs.
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Old Mon Aug 26, 2019, 01:27pm
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Here in my little corner of 100% IAABO Connecticut, we've recently been encouraged to sound our whistle before a free throw after a timeout. I know that it's "by the book", but not many of us do it, not now, and not over the past four decades.
Isn't that just a special case of "after a timeout"? If they are just dribbling out the clock, I don't do anything, just let the horn sound. If there is anything that looks like a shot attempt, I blow the whistle and either score the goal, blow the whistle and wave it off if it is late, or do nothing.
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Old Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:35am
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Here in my little corner of 100% IAABO Connecticut, we've recently been encouraged to sound our whistle before a free throw after a timeout. I know that it's "by the book", but not many of us do it, not now, and not over the past four decades.
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I do it. Especially helps when you are in venues that have DJ's or bands playing music during time-outs.
Good point.
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Old Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:39am
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Isn't that just a special case of "after a timeout"? If they are just dribbling out the clock, I don't do anything, just let the horn sound. If there is anything that looks like a shot attempt, I blow the whistle and either score the goal, blow the whistle and wave it off if it is late, or do nothing.
IAABO is very clear regarding whistles at the end of a period, and before a free throw after a timeout.

Whether we do it or not is another story for another time in another place.

2018-2019 IAABO Significant Manual Revisions
End of Quarter/Period Procedures. By rule, the game clock horn signals the end of the quarter/period unless there is a ball in flight on a try for goal. Officials should not sound the whistle to signify the end of the quarter/period unless they are ruling that the try was not released prior to the sounding of the horn.


Time Out Procedures: When a timeout is followed by a free throw, sound the whistle prior to administering the free throw.
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Old Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:49am
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Old Tue Aug 27, 2019, 10:08am
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No kidding.

And nothing changes. I'll continue to blow my whistle at the end of a quarter cause it's what we do here.


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