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Old Fri Feb 09, 2018, 02:19pm
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NFHS End-of-Period mechanic

Does the FED specify whether the whistle should or should not be blown to signal the end of a period? I was originally taught not to blow the whistle, but the IAABO Officials' Manual doesn't say anything about it either way. So I'm wondering if the NFHS manual states a specific mechanic. Thanks.
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Old Fri Feb 09, 2018, 02:25pm
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I can't find anything, even in last second shot responsibilities.
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Old Fri Feb 09, 2018, 02:29pm
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Does the FED specify whether the whistle should or should not be blown to signal the end of a period? I was originally taught not to blow the whistle, but the IAABO Officials' Manual doesn't say anything about it either way. So I'm wondering if the NFHS manual states a specific mechanic. Thanks.
If I recall correctly, yes, it does...kinda. (keep in mind that I can not recall where) If there is a shot, yes, blow whistle when shot is done. In that case, horn does not end the period. If there is no shot, then do not blow whistle. In that case, horn does end the period.

Shot, horn, end of shot = blow whistle (whistle ends period)
No shot, horn = no whistle (horn ends period)

If I am wrong, someone please quickly correct me.


Update: Check rule 6-7 article 5 exceptions A and B. Also, see https://forum.officiating.com/basket...d-quarter.html
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Old Fri Feb 09, 2018, 04:06pm
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I always think to myself, thats why we have a horn. But I don't care if partners blow. Depending on the situation, I might also get one.
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Old Fri Feb 09, 2018, 04:14pm
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In my area, we're taught that the official responsible should blow the whistle at the end of the quarter, regardless of what's happening. If there's no shot right at the buzzer to wave off, I wait until the horn stops, and give a short tweet.
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Old Sat Feb 10, 2018, 08:39am
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Clock 0:00.0 Horn - Tweet

We're told at various camps that you need a whistle at the end of the period, always. I usually wait until the horn stops to tweet, my rationale is the whistle probably can't be heard over the noise of the horn anyway, so let horn stop, then tweet. This may or not be "correct" by the book(s) but it makes sense to me.
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Old Sat Feb 10, 2018, 09:18am
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around here, we are told the exact opposite - do NOT whistle at the end of a period. That's why there's a horn. No need for it. Also, don't whistle after subs come in or usual delays, unless you absolutely have to get a partner's attention or something unusual happens.
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Old Sat Feb 10, 2018, 03:21pm
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In my area, we're taught that the official responsible should blow the whistle at the end of the quarter, regardless of what's happening. If there's no shot right at the buzzer to wave off, I wait until the horn stops, and give a short tweet.
This is what we do, as well.
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Old Tue Feb 19, 2019, 02:15am
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I had a partner with an interesting mechanic I had never seen before a couple months ago. Last second shot of the 3Q, player is coming in transition, pulls up for a 3, releases the ball with about .3 remaining on the clock. Clearly got the shot off in time yet when the ball is in flight and the horn sounds I hear a steady, long, whistle. Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeep.

Shot misses and the carom comes to me. I grab the ball and go over to my partners who are huddling. I ask if someone blew the whistle and the Trail who had been responsible for the clock said he had blown the whistle. I asked if he was going to wave off the shot and he said no, the player did release it in time. I then asked why the heck he sounded the whistle while the ball was still in flight?? and he said "the mechanics book says to hit the whistle when the horn sounds to end the quarter". One of the dumbest and least practical things I've ever heard.

I can't even find what he's talking about in either the rule or mechanics book, does anyone know what he was reading/smoking?
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Old Tue Feb 19, 2019, 10:54am
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... the IAABO Officials' Manual doesn't say anything about it either way.
Now it does:

2018-2019 IAABO Significant Manual Revisions

End of Quarter/Period Procedures. By rule, the game clock horn signals the end of the quarter/period unless there is a ball in flight on a try for goal. Officials should not sound the whistle to signify the end of the quarter/period unless they are ruling that the try was not released prior to the sounding of the horn.

As usual, when in Rome ...
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Old Tue Feb 19, 2019, 11:59pm
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IAABO Significant Manual Revisions

… Officials should not sound the whistle to signify the end of the quarter/period unless they are ruling that the try was not released prior to the sounding of the horn.
This.

Definitely a when in Rome thing, obviously. Where I work, a whistle to end the period is a dead giveaway of a hack official … whereas it's clearly the exact opposite in other parts of the country.

Do as you were taught, I guess … as long as you were taught by someone good!
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2019, 06:28am
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Now it does:

2018-2019 IAABO Significant Manual Revisions

End of Quarter/Period Procedures. By rule, the game clock horn signals the end of the quarter/period unless there is a ball in flight on a try for goal. Officials should not sound the whistle to signify the end of the quarter/period unless they are ruling that the try was not released prior to the sounding of the horn.

As usual, when in Rome ...
This mechanic is what I was taught twenty years ago and it makes sense.
The rules state that the horn ends the period, unless a try is in flight. So when there is no try to handle, what would a whistle after the horn signify? Consult your Shakespeare here.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2019, 01:40pm
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It makes sense. I don't get why I am expected to blow the whistle at the end of the period with no try when I am working non-IAABO games. Is that because the whisthe is required at the end of the period in the NFHS manual, or is it just cultural expectations? I don't blow the whistle if there is no try, unless the gym I am in has no horn (usually the case for rec games). I only blow the whistle at the end of timeouts, to begin periods, or if the throw-in comes after an extended delay.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:01pm
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I only blow the whistle at the end of timeouts, to begin periods, or if the throw-in comes after an extended delay.
Here in my little corner of 100% IAABO Connecticut, we've recently been encouraged to sound our whistle before a free throw after a timeout. I know that it's "by the book", but not many of us do it, not now, and not over the past four decades.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2019, 02:46pm
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Here in my little corner of 100% IAABO Connecticut, we've recently been encouraged to sound our whistle before a free throw after a timeout. I know that it's "by the book", but not many of us do it, not now, and not over the past four decades.
I've thought about that, but it just seems so awkward and unnecessary.
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