Moving Screen

[Umonblue]

So if an offensive player moves late in front of a defensive player (to set a pick) and makes that defensive player stop or go around him without contact then there's no call? No Violation for an Illegal/Moving screen? Reason I ask I saw this in a college basketball game and called as a violation...that crew must have called it wrong then.

[nolanjj68]

Rule 4. Definitions Section 40 Screen is where you will find your answer.

"Moving screen" is not in the NFHS rule book. Things that happen in college do not necessarily translate to NFHS.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by nolanjj68

Rule 4. Definitions Section 40 Screen is where you will find your answer.

"Moving screen" is not in the NFHS rule book. Things that happen in college do not necessarily translate to NFHS.

Nolan:

I think you need to re-read NFHS R4-S40-A6 again before you make that statement. I don't have my NCAA Men's and Women's Rules Books in front of me but they have the same Definition as the NFHS Rules have.

MTD, Sr.

[SNIPERBBB]

The words "moving screen" as a phrase does not show up in the case or rule books

[scrounge]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

The words "moving screen" as a phrase does not show up in the case or rule books

True....but rule 4-40-2 says the screener must be stationary, and 10-7-11 says it's a foul if a player does not adhere to the rules of screening found in 4-40. So....would not 'moving' be a reasonable opposite of 'stationary'? Non-stationary sounds a bit stilted, no?

Seems to me that "moving screen" is a perfectly reasonable phrase to use for a foul, as a common description to why this particular illegal screen is illegal.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by scrounge

True....but rule 4-40-2 says the screener must be stationary, and 10-7-11 says it's a foul if a player does not adhere to the rules of screening found in 4-40. So....would not 'moving' be a reasonable opposite of 'stationary'? Non-stationary sounds a bit stilted, no?

Seems to me that "moving screen" is a perfectly reasonable phrase to use for a foul, as a common description to why this particular illegal screen is illegal.

That is only part of establishing a legal screen. Simply continue reading section 40. There are other articles.

[#olderthanilook]

Originally Posted by scrounge

True....but rule 4-40-2 says the screener must be stationary, and 10-7-11 says it's a foul if a player does not adhere to the rules of screening found in 4-40. So....would not 'moving' be a reasonable opposite of 'stationary'? Non-stationary sounds a bit stilted, no?

Seems to me that "moving screen" is a perfectly reasonable phrase to use for a foul.

I prefer to use the word (and show) "block" then punch the other way to describe illegal contact by A2 resulting from an attempt to screen opponent B1, for instance.

Perhaps I'm wrong?

[UNIgiantslayers]

Originally Posted by #olderthanilook

I prefer to use the word (and show) "block" then punch the other way to describe illegal contact by A2 resulting from an attempt to screen opponent B1, for instance.

Perhaps I'm wrong?

We've been told to show block and punch.

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by scrounge

True....but rule 4-40-2 says the screener must be stationary, and 10-7-11 says it's a foul if a player does not adhere to the rules of screening found in 4-40. So....would not 'moving' be a reasonable opposite of 'stationary'? Non-stationary sounds a bit stilted, no?

Seems to me that "moving screen" is a perfectly reasonable phrase to use for a foul, as a common description to why this particular illegal screen is illegal.

A screener may be moving if he/she is moving the same direction as the defender.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

A screener may be moving if he/she is moving the same direction as the defender.

Getting warmer... same direction and path.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by scrounge

True....but rule 4-40-2 says the screener must be stationary, and 10-7-11 says it's a foul if a player does not adhere to the rules of screening found in 4-40. So....would not 'moving' be a reasonable opposite of 'stationary'? Non-stationary sounds a bit stilted, no?

Seems to me that "moving screen" is a perfectly reasonable phrase to use for a foul, as a common description to why this particular illegal screen is illegal.

I'll concede "moving" is a reasonable antonym of "stationary". However, without contact, there is no "screen". Thus "moving screen" is still invalid in this context, and only serves to confuse people into thinking that moving while attempting to screen without contact is against the rules.

[Umonblue]

So do you see from all the threads in regards to an Illegal Screen? We have different answers, reasons and definitions.....but still NO concrete answer to the Original question.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by Umonblue

So do you see from all the threads in regards to an Illegal Screen? We have different answers, reasons and definitions.....but still NO concrete answer to the Original question.

Can't figure out your question in OP.

Maybe try again, without all the suppositions and declarative statements left out.....

hint: Illegal screen is a meaningful term in officiating jargon and should result in a personal foul, never a violation.

Moving screen is used by ignorant laypersons

[nolanjj68]

Originally Posted by Umonblue

So do you see from all the threads in regards to an Illegal Screen? We have different answers, reasons and definitions.....but still NO concrete answer to the Original question.

It was answered in the first reply. If no contact it's not a violation or a foul.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Umonblue

So do you see from all the threads in regards to an Illegal Screen? We have different answers, reasons and definitions.....but still NO concrete answer to the Original question.

The original question was a misinterpretation of what happened. We still don't know what happened in the original play.

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