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Old Fri Jan 04, 2008, 08:52pm
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2 Plays:

A1 going for a layup on a fast break. A2 trailing the play with B2 just behind, A2 and B2 going the same path and direction.

Play 1: A2 slows and moves laterally towards the sidelines creating contact as B2 can't change direction quick enough to avoid contact. Foul on A2.

Play 2: Same play but A2 just stops. Foul on B2 as he runs over A2.

PLay 1 happened in a boys JV. Correct?
PLay 2: Correct. Is B2 responsible for contact.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2008, 09:20pm
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Case Book Situation 10.6.11B adresses "stationary" situations (not moving) similar to this and basically says that it all depends on whether or not 1) B has an opportunity to avoid the contact and, 2) did B use this opportunity.

If A's position is so close B can not avoid contact it is a block. If A's position is such that B had the opportunity to avoid contact and didn't B is charged with the foul.

IMO, it's probably a judgement call I'd have to actually see to make up my mind.

However, it's Fri night and most of the experienced refs are doing V games tonight and I'm sure will chime in when they return.....
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2008, 10:38pm
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In Play 2, it's a foul on B. There's a sentence in Rule 10 about the player who's behind being primarily responsible for any contact.

In Play 1, I'd probably call TC, but I think it's an HTBT. It would depend on how much lateral movement A had to make to cut off B, I think.
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Old Fri Jan 04, 2008, 10:54pm
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Play 2 needs a patient whistle.

If you blow it too soon you could be rewarding team B for fouling if A1 hasn't began their shooting motion.
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Old Sat Jan 05, 2008, 12:44am
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2 Plays:

A1 going for a layup on a fast break. A2 trailing the play with B2 just behind, A2 and B2 going the same path and direction.

Play 1: A2 slows and moves laterally towards the sidelines creating contact as B2 can't change direction quick enough to avoid contact. Foul on A2.
If they were going the same path and direction, how did A1's lateral movement create the contact?
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Old Sat Jan 05, 2008, 08:57am
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PLay 1 happened in a boys JV. Correct?
PLay 2: Correct. Is B2 responsible for contact.
I'm having a hard time understanding what happend in play 1, but 4-40-6 (2006 reference) "When screening an opponent who is moving in the same path and direction as the screener is moving, the opponent is responsible for tcontact if the screener slows up or stops.
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