AP throw in question.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by thumpferee

The first of your questions was my original question. When does the arrow change?

The ball was never legally thrown in, so the arrow wouldn't change until B legally throws the ball in. Correct?

Not correct.

[deecee]

Another instance of rampant AP thrown in issues that has come up a handful of times in my 15 years....

Didn't know this was that hard.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by deecee

Another instance of rampant AP thrown in issues that has come up a handful of times in my 15 years....

Didn't know this was that hard.

Agree however "..handful of times in my 15 years..." = scarcity. I know it well because of 2 incidents a long time ago. This case and the (A/P + kicking violation) case are burned directly into the piece of cortex I have remaining.

Violation + A/P throw-in + scarcity = confusion

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by deecee

Another instance of rampant AP thrown in issues that has come up a handful of times in my 15 years....

Didn't know this was that hard.

Spent half a local rules meeting plus part of another meeting trying to not browbeat people into understanding that if there is an AP throw-in and any of the scenarios that cause the arrow to not change happens, the immediately following throw-in is not an AP throw in.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

Spent half a local rules meeting plus part of another meeting trying to not browbeat people into understanding that if there is an AP throw-in and any of the scenarios that cause the arrow to not change happens, the immediately following throw-in is not an AP throw in.

4.42.5 SITUATION: Team A is awarded an alternating-possession throw-in.
A1’s throw-in pass is illegally kicked by B2. RULING: As a result of B2’s kicking
violation, Team A is awarded a new throw-in at the designated spot nearest to
where the kicking violation (illegal touching) occurred. Since the alternating-possession
throw-in had not been contacted legally, the throw-in has not ended and
therefore, the arrow remains with Team A for the next alternating-possession
throw-in. COMMENT: The kicking violation ends the alternating-possession
throw-in and as a result, a non-alternating-possession throw-in is administered.
When the ball is legally touched on the subsequent throw-in following the kicking
violation, the arrow shall not be changed and shall remain with Team A.

[SNIPERBBB]

[deecee]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

didn't billy make your point??? the arrow only changes when 1 of 2 things happen.

1. the throw in is legally touched
2. the throw in team violates