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Old Fri Jan 19, 2018, 04:03pm
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An administrator is not an external audience.

The administrators write my paycheck.


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Old Fri Jan 19, 2018, 04:08pm
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Ok, that's all well and good.

Here, the administrators don't, at least directly write our assigners paycheck, and they are not part of our board.

All that aside, do you have an issue with the hypothetical communication in my post above?
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Old Fri Jan 19, 2018, 04:19pm
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Ok, that's all well and good.



Here, the administrators don't, at least directly write our assigners paycheck, and they are not part of our board.



All that aside, do you have an issue with the hypothetical communication in my post above?


I don't - here I was hired by my schools. We don't really assign through associations here. I can hire anyone licensed by the state.

Don't misunderstand - I am as pro-official as they come, while being transparent as best I can. My last conversation with a crew at a game site was to tell them the one coach should've been warned early and whacked. Of course I told the AD something similar the next day.


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Old Fri Jan 19, 2018, 04:28pm
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I don't - here I was hired by my schools. We don't really assign through associations here. I can hire anyone licensed by the state.

Don't misunderstand - I am as pro-official as they come, while being transparent as best I can. My last conversation with a crew at a game site was to tell them the one coach should've been warned early and whacked. Of course I told the AD something similar the next day.


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Well, I think we are mostly on the same page.

My only point is really re-stating what Raymond already said more succinctly than I'm able to do.

One can be pro official and support an official's decision, or authority to make that decision, while privately expressing to that official their preference for he or she to make a different decision should a similar situation arise in the future.
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Old Sat Jan 20, 2018, 01:45am
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My R tonight got rid of a visiting team fan who was holding up his glasses for and yelling at the other crew member. The fan was sitting all alone right behind the table so he kinda stuck out, which I guess is why he got rid of him.

He actually asked the fan directly “Do you want to stay here?” and I think the fan dared him to get rid of him, so he went to the deputy and did just that. I wouldn’t have gone to the fan directly and probably wouldn’t have even tossed him for what he did, but when you’ve been around as long as this R has you earn some leeway in how you handle things.
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Old Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:13am
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I used to have partners that I would work a great deal of games with that would do something they called, "Playing the game."

They would have a fan that would act very stupid or stand out and they would sit next to each other, point and act like they were talking about the guy/gal and every time the obnoxious fan would either shut up or their spouse/partner or friends around them would hit them to shut up. Even one time there was a guy that left on his own immediately. It was hilarious how often this worked. They did not do it all the time or every game. It was rare, but it worked. BTW, they would be talking about where they were going to eat or how good their hair looked, but it was nothing to do directly with the fan or saying anything they could hear. Often it was done in the middle of the court during a timeout.

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Old Sat Jan 20, 2018, 11:30am
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He actually asked the fan directly “Do you want to stay here?” and I think the fan dared him to get rid of him, so he went to the deputy and did just that.
This guy probably teaches the local “Baiting 101” referee class.
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