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Old Thu Jan 04, 2018, 12:11am
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TV Teddy Video and comments?

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TV Teddy ignores and refused to address North Carolina guard Joel Berry as Berry was arguing he was fouled in the open court. Anyone else think Valentine looked silly when he made an exaggerated gesture and turned his back to Berry?
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2018, 12:43am
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What is there to comment on? The player was arguing and he decided not to talk to him. Might not be the way I would have done it, but I am not in his position either. And him being a 4-year player means nothing to me. That kid might not even make the NBA and why would an official give a damn about who he is anyway?

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Old Thu Jan 04, 2018, 12:58am
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Yes, it was silly, childish even.
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2018, 05:00am
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Yes, it was silly, childish even.
Agreed.
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2018, 09:00am
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I don't agree with how he handled the situation.

We don't want players showing us up and we shouldn't be showing them up either!
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2018, 09:12am
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I was on his side until I saw the video. That was pretty douchey.
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2018, 09:15am
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The whole thing is just strange. I wonder what was said behind closed doors after the game once everyone saw the actual foul that was missed.
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2018, 09:25am
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Yes, it was silly, childish even.
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We don't want players showing us up and we shouldn't be showing them up either!
I'm pretty sure I agree. The thing we don't know is if the kid had been a whiney PITA for the whole game, trying to argue every call. If that had been the case, I can maybe almost kinda see that you want to send the message that you are absolutely done trying to talk with him.

Even then, I'm pretty sure I don't like the folding the arms. It really made him look stupid.
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2018, 09:33am
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Bad look. If its that much of a problem T him up and move on.
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2018, 11:37am
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I'm pretty sure I agree. The thing we don't know is if the kid had been a whiney PITA for the whole game, trying to argue every call. If that had been the case, I can maybe almost kinda see that you want to send the message that you are absolutely done trying to talk with him.

Even then, I'm pretty sure I don't like the folding the arms. It really made him look stupid.
Not only that, he put up both hands to stop him from arguing. The play in question was not Teddy's play to see. That was the Center's and maybe the Trail's play to see.

And I am sure Teddy does not care what others like us think about the situation, he handled it to where it was done. The kid did not get a T, he probably stopped complaining to him and we moved on. If Jay Bilas did not say anything, no one would have even recognized the situation I am sure. And who cares what Jay thinks anyway as I am trying to figure out why him being a 4-year player matters to anyone but some media person. He does not get more room to complain. He is also a Black player talking to a Black official, who most here probably have no idea the things that Black players say to officials. He probably was trying to keep his behind in the game because he was important to the NC team. None of us know and most would not even know what I am referencing for a reason. So I would need to ask Teddy specifically what that player was saying to even get partially upset about anything Teddy V said.

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Old Thu Jan 04, 2018, 12:02pm
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Absolutely horrific action by the official. I found hilarious that the player then did not give him the ball and placed it on the floor. The player won that situation IMO.
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2018, 12:07pm
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Absolutely horrific action by the official. I found hilarious that the player then did not give him the ball and placed it on the floor. The player won that situation IMO.
He did not ask for the ball and it was a timeout. IJS.

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Old Thu Jan 04, 2018, 12:17pm
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He did not ask for the ball and it was a timeout. IJS.
Watch the full clip Jeff, Teddy turns back around and asks for the ball with his hands. The player starts to give it to him, then puts it on the ground.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21955293
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2018, 12:20pm
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He is also a Black player talking to a Black official, who most here probably have no idea the things that Black players say to officials. He probably was trying to keep his behind in the game because he was important to the NC team. None of us know and most would not even know what I am referencing for a reason.
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I'm wondering if you'd be willing to expand on what you mean by this. I'm not doubting you at all on this, so please don't mistake this for skepticism. I can imagine what you're saying, but am curious about this. How often does this type of thing happen? What types of things are they saying that they wouldn't say to me? How do you handle that? Is there a line in the sand for you? Do Black coaches interact with you differently than they do with your partners and/or differently than white coaches do?
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Old Thu Jan 04, 2018, 12:25pm
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For 99.9% of officials, doing this will get them in trouble.

For Teddy, the rules are different. Whether that’s fair or not is a different debate, but he’s “earned” the privilege to do things his own way. There’s a reason Teddy continues to work high-profile games and go deep into the postseason.
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