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Old Tue Jan 02, 2018, 08:22pm
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Just calling you a cheater alone? I do not know that would get a Flagrant by itself either. I was called something else and did give a Flagrant T earlier, but it was not being called a cheater. Heck they are basically calling you that when they talk about foul counts. Need stronger language for that alone. I would rather give two Ts than one.

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Those are both personal and profane and would get him ejected in any baseball game I've worked over the last 25+ years at any level.

Why does he get more leeway in hoops? That coach would be gone.
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Old Tue Jan 02, 2018, 10:22pm
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Those are both personal and profane and would get him ejected in any baseball game I've worked over the last 25+ years at any level.

Why does he get more leeway in hoops? That coach would be gone.
Well in baseball, guys get ejected for looking at umpires wrong. When I worked baseball, guys would love to brag about how many guys they got rid of during games as if it was a badge of honor. In football, a coach can have a meltdown and nothing ever happens to them as it comes to being penalized (e.g Mark Richt). When is the last time you saw a football coach get ejected from anything but a high school game? Basketball seems to be somewhere in the middle of those two sports. Now if you are working a baseball game, that might be OK because of the culture of that sport, but it is said often that umpires are either confrontational or too sensitive.

In basketball, if something is not obvious to everyone, people (meaning fellow officials or coaches and media) are often scrutinizing us for what coaches get ejected for. How many times has a coach said something inappropriate, but no one heard a single thing but you as an official and it turns into he said, he said situation? Well, I cannot speak for you, but for me, that has happened often. So I am not ejecting a coach just because they used foul language. As a matter of fact, if I ejected every coach that used foul language, at least in these parts I would have ejections every other game and probably would not get hired anymore. I tend to use other skills to get accomplished what I want or to get the behavior to stop, especially when the behavior is not very well identified by an observer. I would rather eject someone for something everyone sees or hears so that there is no question they did that act.
But I have been saying this for a long time, if they roll the dice, they just might crap out. So you are totally in the right if you choose to do such a thing, but I would rather make it so the other questions cannot be easily raised about me. Because at the end of the day, you eject a coach it becomes about you to those that claim they did nothing wrong.

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