Duke v Mich State

Originally Posted by Raymond

It was none of those bolded items. And being so rigid, without taking into account context clues, would not bode well for moving up the college ranks.

So you’re saying this is not a Flagrant 1 foul? The first of those bolded items you called out refers to a Flagrant 1.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Intent doesn't matter a whit to me. I look at mode of contact (elbow) and location of contact (head and neck area), and whether the contact is excessive/unnecessary or excessive and also severe/extreme.

For me, this contact is excessive and severe. Therefore, Flagrant 2. I have a Flagrant 1 for the jersey pull.

Originally Posted by AremRed

So you’re saying this is not a Flagrant 1 foul? The first of those bolded items you called out refers to a Flagrant 1.

You said FF2.

[bucky]

Teddy was right there, not sure why he passed on the jersey hold. had he immediately called an FF1 for that, there may have been no escalation. Duke player, being held, simply tried to swipe away holding hand without looking back, and inadvertently (IMO) hit the MSU player... above the shoulders. Ball was at mid-court. Teddy allowed play to continue. Now, at dead ball, they review.

Many have offered their opinion. I would have just went with double F1's.

(I noticed, at 1:58, that JD (looks like him) is at the table.)

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bucky

Teddy was right there, not sure why he passed on the jersey hold. had he immediately called an FF1 for that, there may have been no escalation. Duke player, being held, simply tried to swipe away holding hand without looking back, and inadvertently (IMO) hit the MSU player... above the shoulders. Ball was at mid-court. Teddy allowed play to continue. Now, at dead ball, they review.

Many have offered their opinion. I would have just went with double F1's.

(I noticed, at 1:58, that JD (looks like him) is at the table.)

I would like to think I would have had double F1's on this. I do know I would not have left the players, especially 2 bigs.

That was Collins at the table.

Originally Posted by Raymond

You said FF2.

You said it was “none of those bolded items”. And the first part of the section you bolded was the Flagrant 1 language, the second part was the Flagrant 2 language. Thus, “none of those bolded items” means neither Flagrant 1 nor Flagrant 2. Just wanted to clear that up.