Please clear this up.

[Jqb12]

OK, so the reasoning behind this is........it’s not considered an “error” because there is no way an official would’ve known that the foul was the kids 5th. Am I thinking this through correctly?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jqb12

OK, so the reasoning behind this is........it’s not considered an “error” because there is no way an official would’ve known that the foul was the kids 5th. Am I thinking this through correctly?

It does not fit the situations in 2-10. It is that simple.

Peace

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Jqb12

OK, so the reasoning behind this is........it’s not considered an “error” because there is no way an official would’ve known that the foul was the kids 5th. Am I thinking this through correctly?

What Rut said, plus a player isn't DQ's until we are notified. A player can technically accumulate more than 5 personal fouls and remain in the game.

[Jqb12]

“It just doesn’t fit 2-10” is a bit vague. It says “Permitting the wrong player to attempt a free throw”. Isn’t that exactly what’ going on?
But I’m getting it........the DQ player explanation does help.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Jqb12

“It just doesn’t fit 2-10” is a bit vague. It says “Permitting the wrong player to attempt a free throw”. Isn’t that exactly what’ going on?
But I’m getting it........the DQ player explanation does help.

Not quite. The wrong player would be...#42 has 2 FT's coming, however #3 shoots them. #42 is the one entitled and must shoot the FT's. So leave the DQ'd part out for now.

This is a wrong player shooting the FT's.

In the case of a DQ - ONLY the DQ'd player's substitute can shoot the FT's. However a player isn't DQ'd until notified and until notified that player is just like any of the other players on the court, subject to the same rules.

[Scrapper1]

Wow, the original poster is correct about the old ruling. I just looked it up. It says it's a correctable error. You wipe out A1's FTs, bring in A6 to re-shoot them, and allow any B team member to attempt the technical FTs.

WOW! How did that sneak by everybody???

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Wow, the original poster is correct about the old ruling. I just looked it up. It says it's a correctable error. You wipe out A1's FTs, bring in A6 to re-shoot them, and allow any B team member to attempt the technical FTs.

WOW! How did that sneak by everybody???

Was it corrected at the time as a mistake?

Peace

[bob jenkins]

From the interps sticky on this page:

Page 29, 4.14.1D SITUATION, RULING Correction: Officials notify the Team A coach of the disqualification and allow a substitute for A1. The points made by A1 will stand. B3 is allowed to shoot the free throws for the technical foul and Team B is given the ball at half court to continue the game. (4-14-2; 2-11-5 Note)

[Jqb12]

Originally Posted by deecee

Not quite. The wrong player would be...#42 has 2 FT's coming, however #3 shoots them. #42 is the one entitled and must shoot the FT's. So leave the DQ'd part out for now.

This is a wrong player shooting the FT's.

In the case of a DQ - ONLY the DQ'd player's substitute can shoot the FT's. However a player isn't DQ'd until notified and until notified that player is just like any of the other players on the court, subject to the same rules.

Thanks, that explanation helped out.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jqb12

“It just doesn’t fit 2-10” is a bit vague. It says “Permitting the wrong player to attempt a free throw”. Isn’t that exactly what’ going on?
But I’m getting it........the DQ player explanation does help.

No, because it was determined some time ago that this is not fit the CR rule. He/she is not the wrong player, they are still a player until they are informed that they have been disqualified. The same would happen if a player with 5 fouls is discovered to actually have 5 fouls a minute later of play. You do not take off their points, they are still a legal player until they are told they are disqualified. Rule 2-14-2 clearly says that a player is officially disqualified and becomes bench personnel when the coach is notified. Well, if they are never notified, they are still a player.

It is more than one rule at play here.

Peace

[Jqb12]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

No, because it was determined some time ago that this is not fit the CR rule. He/she is not the wrong player, they are still a player until they are informed that they have been disqualified. The same would happen if a player with 5 fouls is discovered to actually have 5 fouls a minute later of play. You do not take off their points, they are still a legal player until they are told they are disqualified. Rule 2-14-2 clearly says that a player is officially disqualified and becomes bench personnel when the coach is notified. Well, if they are never notified, they are still a player.

It is more than one rule at play here.

Peace

I see that now. Appreciate the help.