Ball Lodges

[BryanV21]

I got one...

A1 is dribbling in his backcourt towards Team B's basket. A1 stops dribbling and "shoots" at B's basket, but the ball gets lodged between the rim and backboard. AP or double dribble?

I'm going to guess "double dribble"

[Valley Man]

I thought so!

As for the other .. chicken before the egg kinda crap .. I am going with AP not double dribble

[bucky]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I got one...

A1 is dribbling in his backcourt towards Team B's basket. A1 stops dribbling and "shoots" at B's basket, but the ball gets lodged between the rim and backboard. AP or double dribble?

I'm going to guess "double dribble"

Not double dribble as A1 has not touched the ball after it hit the rim/backboard.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by bucky

Not double dribble as A1 has not touched the ball after it hit the rim/backboard.

Why would A1 have to touch the ball again for a double dribble? He dribbled, stopped, and threw it off his opponent's backboard. Throwing it off your opponent's backboard is the same as pushing it to the floor. So do you not call "normal" double dribbles until the dribbler touches the ball after dribbling a second time?

[bucky]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

Why would A1 have to touch the ball again for a double dribble? He dribbled, stopped, and threw it off his opponent's backboard. Throwing it off your opponent's backboard is the same as pushing it to the floor. So do you not call "normal" double dribbles until the dribbler touches the ball after dribbling a second time?

Correct. See NF 2016-17 case 9.5 sit A. Presuming it did not change for this year.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by bucky

Correct. See case 9.5 sit A.

I don't recall seeing or hearing about the part where A1 needs to be the first to touch the ball after it hits the backboard or official. Which makes my question moot.

Thanks

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I don't recall seeing or hearing about the part where A1 needs to be the first to touch the ball after it hits the backboard or official. Which makes my question moot.

Thanks

The double dribble actually occurs at the time of the release. It is just that you can't know whether it is a dribble or a pass until it is again touched by either A1 or another player.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The double dribbler actually occurs at the time of the release. It is just that you can't know whether it is a dribbler or a pass until it is again touched by either A1 or another player.

(Assuming this does become a double dribble) -- So is the throw-in spot where A1 initially released the ball, or where A1 subsequently touches the ball?

[bucky]

Originally Posted by BryanV21

I don't recall seeing or hearing about the part where A1 needs to be the first to touch the ball after it hits the backboard or official. Which makes my question moot.

Thanks

Also case 4.15.4 sit c