Ball Lodges
 

More officials ..more debates..LOL

Rulings on resuming play when the ball lodges between the rim and backboard:

1) On a shot?

2) On a Throw In ?

3) On a Free Throw (Last one)?

Thanks!

You're not a rookie anymore with over 500 posts, so you should know the answer to all of these - there's no ambiguity. Take a guess at least.

Normally I'm happy to just provide answers, but it's test-taking season, so I'm leery of the OP's motive. These are not hard questions, so will leave it to the OP to look up.

I will say that I never thought I'd see #3 happen. Until it did. Last year. The strangest things sometimes happen on basketball courts.

To clarify my motives,

#1 AP

#2 Throw in Violation

#3 AP


I had a 29 year Vet tell a coach that #3 was a violation and ball goes to B. AP not relevant!

I placed it out here to get confirmation that I know what I am talking about and not to believe everything others may profess:p

A lesson in life I learned sometimes those with the biggest mouth have the least amount of accurate information:)

I still read through the rule and case books cover-to-cover at least once per year. It gets more and more boring each time, but I do it anyway.

This is why.

Correct on all three

for #3, just to confirm what I'm almost certain on:

If you have a delayed violation on the FT and the ball lodges, it is treated just like any other miss and another FT is awarded.

Correct IMO. I don't believe there's a case play on this but that might be a good suggestion as one for the NFHS to adopt.

Logically, the reason you go AP on a lodged try (FG or FT) is because both teams are afforded no opportunity to rebound the miss. In a delayed violation scenario, the ball becomes dead when the FT ends (ball lodges) and you proceed by penalizing the violation (substitute FT).

How about if A1 goes in wrong direction, "shoots", and it lodges? It is neither a shot, throw-in, nor a FT.:eek:

Give it back to A. A was still in TC and the ball became dead without a violation or foul, or end of period being involved (and whatever else is covered in the rule on this)

And A gets a fresh ten seconds! Talk about a lucky break.

Isn't that an AP also? Rules don't use the word shot/shoots. (6-4-3 d)

Find the rule on when the AP is used when "neither TC, not a violation, nor end of period in involved". Are all those applicable?

Wow--that is so not intuitive!

So has anyone--in the history of the game--seen #2 from the OP?

It is definitely counterintuitive that an attempt at the wrong basket is not a try for goal, but that's the rule. Came from behind the arc? Two points. A1 ended a dribble, "shot," and the ball hit the opponent's backboard? Illegal dribble violation.

A thorough knowledge of the definitions in Rule 4 and their associated case plays are important in situations like this.

As for #2, I haven't seen it, but I always thought I'd see it before I ever saw #3. Wrong! I can envision an alley-oop throw-in from the sideline getting lodged. It'll happen someday and I'll be ready with the call. Bonus points for anyone who can find a video of this happening.