28-foot box

[SC Official]

We were recently told that South Carolina is adopting the 28-foot coaching box.

Any states keeping the box at 14' or smaller?

Originally Posted by SC Official

We were recently told that South Carolina is adopting the 28-foot coaching box.

Any states keeping the box at 14' or smaller?

I have no knowledge but I would wager that every state will allow the new larger box.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by SC Official

We were recently told that South Carolina is adopting the 28-foot coaching box.

Any states keeping the box at 14' or smaller?

I hope not.

[JRutledge]

My state adopted the new rule. I have not heard anyone staying with the old rule.

But unless something changed, I know Iowa did not have a coaching box at all and required their coaches to sit (as of a few years ago). Not sure if that is the case anymore, but it was once the rule there. I would hear coaches from Iowa teams ask, "What can I do?"

I am sure someone from Iowa can confirm if they even use a box. I just know not everyone accepted the older rules so I am sure that will be the case in some situations moving forward.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by SC Official

We were recently told that South Carolina is adopting the 28-foot coaching box.

Any states keeping the box at 14' or smaller?

Is the size of the box a state-level option? If not, our state will go with whatever is defined by the NFHS.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Is the size of the box a state-level option? If not, our state will go with whatever is defined by the NFHS.

The actual size that is allowed is a state adopted rule. But they can now under NF have a 28-foot box.

Peace

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Is the size of the box a state-level option? If not, our state will go with whatever is defined by the NFHS.

Yep. Previous maximum was 14 feet, now it's 28. There were/are some states that still only allow a 6-foot box, or no box at all in extreme cases like Iowa.

[just another ref]

I anticipate that every school will want the new box but nobody will want to redo the lines.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

We need to remember per NFHS Basketball R10-S6-A1, HCs are not allowed to stand excpet under certain situations unless the StateHSAA has adopted a "designated coaching box" per R10-S6-A1.

I know that the MichiganHSAA did not adopt a "designated coaching box until about ten years ago.

Therefore, for all intents an purposes, NFHS Basketball R10-S6-A1 is a "seat belt rule" with the individual StateHSAAs being allowed to adopt a "designated coach box" rule. The "seat belt" rule was orignally adopted by the National Basketball Committee of the United States and Canada for the 1970-71 season. The rule applied to both boys'/girls' high school and men's college games in both countries with no provision for a StateHSAA to adopt a "designated coaching box". But do not worry, the "seat belt rule" was never (with apologies to J. Dallas Shirely) enforced at the college level.

When the NBCUSC split into the NFHS and NCAA Men's Committees (1977-78 or 1978-79, I want to say it was the former and not the latter) the NFHS kept the "seat belt rule" and the NCAA Men's adopted the "designated coaching box" rule.

When the "seat belt rule" was first adopted the OhioHSAA made it even stricter that written by not allowing the HC to stand during any Dead Ball except TOs and between quarters. Years later, the OhioHSAA was a pioneer in developing the "designated coaching box" before the NFHS game the StateHSAAs to adopt the "designated coaching box".

MTD, Sr.

[UNIgiantslayers]

Iowa has had a box for a while. I believe I read that we're adopting the 28' box.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I anticipate that every school will want the new box but nobody will want to redo the lines.

The end closest to the scoring table remains the same -- no new line needed.

The end farthest from the scoring table is now the end-line (if the state adopts the new box, and IABBO doesn't come out with another cock-a-mamie "rule" on this ) -- again no line really needed.

The NCAA courts will need a new line at 38'

[Freddy]

The MHSAA announced on its www.mhsaa/officials site that the new rule 1-13-2 will not be approved for the 2017-18 season:

BASKETBALL COACHES BOX NOTICE:
The MHSAA has not adopted the NFHS (NEW) allowance for a 28 foot coaches box.
The MHSAA will only allow for regular season and MHSAA tournaments the 14 foot coaches box.

[Rich]

Wisconsin is adopting the 28' box.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Freddy

The MHSAA announced on its www.mhsaa/officials site that the new rule 1-13-2 will not be approved for the 2017-18 season:

BASKETBALL COACHES BOX NOTICE:
The MHSAA has not adopted the NFHS (NEW) allowance for a 28 foot coaches box.
The MHSAA will only allow for regular season and MHSAA tournaments the 14 foot coaches box.

I don't understand why we (officials/states) should concern ourselves with where the coach is standing as long as he's in front of his bench, off the court and out of harm's way.

A 14-foot box makes our job as officials unnecessarily harder. The refrain I hear is that the expanded box "...gives him 14 more feet to act like a jackass." Well if you're not scared to do your job, he won't be acting like a jackass. The same was true before this change.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SC Official

A 14-foot box makes our job as officials unnecessarily harder.

Agree. I would prefer to deal with the coach's behavior, and not be concerned about where he's standing (as long as he's not standing in front of the scorer's table, blocking the view of the scorer and timer).