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Old Sun Sep 17, 2017, 09:42pm
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We're still waiting for a ruling on this here in Maine. Same for 2-hand reporting.
One of our posters is going to go all "states can do whatever they want" on me for saying this, but...

The size of the box is a state option. Two-hand reporting is not. Technically if Maine stays with one hand, wouldn't it be subject to losing its seat on the Rules Committee? Not saying that would or should happen, but just a thought.
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Old Mon Sep 18, 2017, 07:09am
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One of our posters is going to go all "states can do whatever they want" on me for saying this, but...

The size of the box is a state option. Two-hand reporting is not. Technically if Maine stays with one hand, wouldn't it be subject to losing its seat on the Rules Committee? Not saying that would or should happen, but just a thought.
I think there's a difference between rules and mechanics (even those that are somehow specified in the rules themselves) in terms of being on the committee.
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Old Mon Sep 18, 2017, 05:03pm
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Riddle Me This, When Is A Mechanic A Rule ???

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I think there's a difference between rules and mechanics (even those that are somehow specified in the rules themselves) in terms of being on the committee.
Two hand reporting sounds like it should be a mechanic and should be in the Manual, but I believe that it's in the NFHS Rulebook, and therefore is a rule. I wonder why?
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Old Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:37pm
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Two hand reporting sounds like it should be a mechanic and should be in the Manual, but I believe that it's in the NFHS Rulebook, and therefore is a rule. I wonder why?
It is in the Manual and the Rules Book. Rule 2-9-1 has indicated how many hands officials are "supposed" to report fouls with for however long.
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Old Mon Sep 18, 2017, 07:37pm
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Two hand reporting sounds like it should be a mechanic and should be in the Manual, but I believe that it's in the NFHS Rulebook, and therefore is a rule. I wonder why?
Perhaps the "mechanics" are more specifically intended to cover the procedures that only officials need to know (where to stand, where to look, how to move, etc.) while rules include not just the playing rules but the bridge between the officials an those playing rules...the signals used to communicate how the rules were violated.

Players, coaches, scorers, timers, and fans couldn't care less about the former while many of them have a need to know the latter. Putting those in those in the rule book makes sense since such groups really don't need 95% of what is in the mechanics book.
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Old Tue Sep 19, 2017, 05:48am
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Perhaps the "mechanics" are more specifically intended to cover the procedures that only officials need to know while rules include not just the playing rules but the bridge between the officials an those playing rules...the signals used to communicate how the rules were violated. Players, coaches, scorers, timers, and fans couldn't care less about the former while many of them have a need to know the latter. Putting those in those in the rule book makes sense since they such groups really don't need 95% of what is in the mechanics book.
Great explanation.
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Old Mon Sep 18, 2017, 08:30am
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One of our posters is going to go all "states can do whatever they want" on me for saying this, but...

The size of the box is a state option. Two-hand reporting is not. Technically if Maine stays with one hand, wouldn't it be subject to losing its seat on the Rules Committee? Not saying that would or should happen, but just a thought.
Well, I don't know that answer to that.... But I'm guessing it's like bob says.
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Old Mon Sep 18, 2017, 09:29am
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Well, I don't know that answer to that.... But I'm guessing it's like bob says.
Agreed. After all, the rules require officials to wear black and white stripes, which doesn't happen in multiple states represented on the Committee.
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Agreed. After all, the rules require officials to wear black and white stripes, which doesn't happen in multiple states represented on the Committee.
And it is a rule to wear black and white stripes and many states do not wear those at all. So again states can and will do what they want on many levels. Not something new if you pay attention to these things (and I am talking multiple sports as well).

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Old Mon Sep 18, 2017, 05:06pm
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... the rules require officials to wear black and white stripes, which doesn't happen in multiple states represented on the Committee.
Those states that allow officials to wear other colors should be put on double secret probation. That will teach them.
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