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Old Fri Sep 15, 2017, 08:58am
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The MHSAA announced on its www.mhsaa/officials site that the new rule 1-13-2 will not be approved for the 2017-18 season:

BASKETBALL COACHES BOX NOTICE:
The MHSAA has not adopted the NFHS (NEW) allowance for a 28 foot coaches box.
The MHSAA will only allow for regular season and MHSAA tournaments the 14 foot coaches box.
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Old Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:00am
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Wisconsin is adopting the 28' box.
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Old Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:35am
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The MHSAA announced on its www.mhsaa/officials site that the new rule 1-13-2 will not be approved for the 2017-18 season:

BASKETBALL COACHES BOX NOTICE:
The MHSAA has not adopted the NFHS (NEW) allowance for a 28 foot coaches box.
The MHSAA will only allow for regular season and MHSAA tournaments the 14 foot coaches box.
I don't understand why we (officials/states) should concern ourselves with where the coach is standing as long as he's in front of his bench, off the court and out of harm's way.

A 14-foot box makes our job as officials unnecessarily harder. The refrain I hear is that the expanded box "...gives him 14 more feet to act like a jackass." Well if you're not scared to do your job, he won't be acting like a jackass. The same was true before this change.
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Old Fri Sep 15, 2017, 04:32pm
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A 14-foot box makes our job as officials unnecessarily harder.
Agree. I would prefer to deal with the coach's behavior, and not be concerned about where he's standing (as long as he's not standing in front of the scorer's table, blocking the view of the scorer and timer).
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Old Sun Sep 17, 2017, 10:36am
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Agree. I would prefer to deal with the coach's behavior, and not be concerned about where he's standing (as long as he's not standing in front of the scorer's table, blocking the view of the scorer and timer).
Or standing past the end line, which is what has gotten a few college coaches a T in multiple situations.

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Old Sun Sep 17, 2017, 11:43am
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Or standing past the end line, which is what has gotten a few college coaches a T in multiple situations.

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I can't imagine having a coach yelling at me as a lead and taking that for long. But I never did take that kind of stuff anyway.
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Old Sun Sep 17, 2017, 02:35pm
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I can't imagine having a coach yelling at me as a lead and taking that for long. But I never did take that kind of stuff anyway.
Agreed.

Officials who weren't dealing with misbehavior with a 14-foot box won't deal with misbehavior with a 28-foot box, either. And then they'll say that coaches are acting more idiotic with the bigger box.
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Old Mon Sep 18, 2017, 11:11am
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I can't imagine having a coach yelling at me as a lead and taking that for long. But I never did take that kind of stuff anyway.
It does not happen every game, but when it has I have seen it be penalized. Never happen in one of my games because coaches know better. It probably will happen a few more times because high school coaches are not used to that size of the box and they often are less professional about pushing the limits. But we will see. Time will tell.

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Old Sun Sep 17, 2017, 01:22pm
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Or standing past the end line, which is what has gotten a few college coaches a T in multiple situations.
Thanks for the warning.

As a 100% high school official who has never dealt with a twenty-eight foot coaching box, I never would have dreamed that this would be a problem.

In some of the gyms where I work, if the coach goes more than a few feet past the endline he going to walk into a wall, or out a door.

Hopefully they won't turn the corner and try to cozy up to me as the lead on the endline.

Well, we are all familiar with the old saying, give them twenty-eight feet and they're going to take thirty feet, or something like that.
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In some of the gyms where I work, if the coach goes more than a few feet past the endline he going to walk into a wall, or out a door.
Some games, I'd be okay with the coach doing just that.
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