2 hand reporting

[JRutledge]

I have already seen this a few times in camp and it is clear we are going to have more problems with tables than we had before. Again when you cannot do the basic thing right, you will not be able to add other aspects to reporting process and assume that it will be better.

Peace

[SNIPERBBB]

What problems?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

What problems?

The same issues we had before. And they will be highlighted because officials that did not have a grasp on basic reporting and now we have added something that will be more confusing. Half the time when I see official report, they are confusing enough with one hand. Now I have no idea what they are reporting with two hands. If I do not hear their voice, I likely have no idea what number is being reported.

Again, sometimes I think we have officials that are exposed to higher levels and assume that everyone is capable of doing it just as well. Well it is clear to me this is going to be for awhile an issue in many aspects of the game. We have brand new officials that cannot get the idea of what they want to present at the table and now they have to think more about something they are struggling with in the first place.

Peace

[SC Official]

Rut, you are wrong and you know it, and so does everyone else on here. They already released the wording of how the RULE is going to read, and you are still denying that this is a RULE change, not just a mechanics change. I don't give a rat's ass what your state or any other state chooses to do. It's still in the rule book.

It is right there in front of you yet you keep denying it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Rut, you are wrong and you know it, and so does everyone else on here. They already released the wording of how the RULE is going to read, and you are still denying that this is a RULE change, not just a mechanics change. I don't give a rat's ass what your state or any other state chooses to do. It's still in the rule book.

It is right there in front of you yet you keep denying it.

So the rule that requires a black and white shirt is always used by states that use NF rules? Interesting, because I can name many states that for some time do not use black and white shirts during their games. So again, when you show me why states that are members are using things outside of the stated rules (and I could get into things like shot clocks) and now this is a "mandated" unlike any other application of this policy. Interesting. Again, your penis is too hard for this change.

I will say this again. I have worked a tournament or two that used shirts that were no where near the black and white shirts. I worked a tournament that every year used a different color shirt and jacket. It was one of the appealing parts of working the tournament as we would get more gear. I worked a tournament that on the first day they celebrated veterans and we were given a camouflage style shirt to work those games. So just like the shirts we wear, states, associations and even individuals use all kinds of things that do not fit the rules. We have those conversations every day on this site, if you are paying attention.

Peace

[SC Official]

Who the hell said any state was "mandated" to use two hand reporting? I sure didn't. Stop pulling words out of your ass and putting them in my mouth.

States can do whatever they want. It doesn't change what the rule book says. However, you seem insistent on just flat out denying that this is in fact a rule change despite evidence to the contrary. You probably just think lowly high school officials shouldn't have the right to use two hands like holy college officials like yourself.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Who the hell said any state was "mandated" to use two hand reporting? I sure didn't. Stop pulling words out of your ass and putting them in my mouth.

States can do whatever they want. It doesn't change what the rule book says. However, you seem insistent on just flat out denying that this is in fact a rule change despite evidence to the contrary. You probably just think lowly high school officials shouldn't have the right to use two hands like holy college officials like yourself.

But you said it was required. In other words they have no choice. In other words they cannot choose to not follow such rules. So I guess when members of the NF choose to do something different, they must not be required to follow what you state is so important.

Oh I forgot, my state does not follow the uniform rules to the letter. We modified those rules because it was becoming a big problem and Illinois is a member of the NF. They are not a full member because they do not pay into the insurance or fees for the officials. Our state takes care of that separate from the NF, but they choose to modify or ignore the NF rule on uniforms. So much for requirements.

Peace