Practicing Two-Hand Reporting

[ChuckS]

So I had a 5th/6th grade tournament yesterday, what a perfect time to start two-hand reporting! Practiced a little bit at home, game starts, called my first foul. . .on number 72!! Oh well. . . . .

[LRZ]

Is the proper method right hand/first digit, left hand/second digit? Are you to hold both hands up simultaneously or right hand followed immediately by the left?

[Valley Man]

Yes. Right hand has first digit. You want the scorers table to read the number left to right.

Funny story from coaching days .. my wife wondered for several games when I was coaching about something and she never asked. Mid-way through the season she asked "You keep putting the team in 13 for the defense". I said yes the 1-3-1. She said but you keep holding up 31 on your fingers.

She sat behind the bench in the bleachers

[SC Official]

I show both hands simultaneously. Some people teach showing one after the other, and it can be helpful for starting out to do it that way, but it doesn't really matter.

I'll be blunt, I'm not really sure why people would even have it in their minds to show the number so that it's read backwards from the scorer's perspective. The scorer is the one recording the foul, so common sense would dictate that (s)he would need to be able to read it from left to right.

[JRutledge]

We have people struggling to do this? If you knew how to report with one hand, I am not sure why adding a second hand is that hard. BTW, been doing this in off season games for years.

Peace

[stripes]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

We have people struggling to do this? If you knew how to report with one hand, I am not sure why adding a second hand is that hard. BTW, been doing this in off season games for years.

Peace

+1

I think we try to make things (mechanics, etc.) harder than they need to be.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SC Official

I show both hands simultaneously. Some people teach showing one after the other, and it can be helpful for starting out to do it that way, but it doesn't really matter.

I'll be blunt, I'm not really sure why people would even have it in their minds to show the number so that it's read backwards from the scorer's perspective. The scorer is the one recording the foul, so common sense would dictate that (s)he would need to be able to read it from left to right.

In baseball/softball the count is given with the first number (BALLS) on the left hand and the second number (STRIKES) on the right hand. So I can see the confusion for those who work other sports.

[BigT]

It helps to start the numbers in your hand while going to the table then just bring them up at the last minute. Helps you look better and gives us slow people a chance to prep the numbers..

[LRZ]

I'm just curious about the mandated mechanic, although at my age, I could care less about getting dinged. Over the years, I have seen more and more micro-managing, down to the littlest detail and mechanic. I could see this becoming another area where refs get dinged for showing right hand, then left, instead of both simultaneously, or vice versa. Maybe it will come down to "when in Rome" or "what your assigned expects."

I never thought about comparing this to calling balls and strikes, Rich, although I do umpire baseball. Now I'll really get confused!

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Rich

In baseball/softball the count is given with the first number (BALLS) on the left hand and the second number (STRIKES) on the right hand. So I can see the confusion for those who work other sports.

Fair point.

Originally Posted by Rich

In baseball/softball the count is given with the first number (BALLS) on the left hand and the second number (STRIKES) on the right hand. So I can see the confusion for those who work other sports.

I noticed that the other day, why is that? Is it for the scorer who usually sits behind?

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by ChuckS

So I had a 5th/6th grade tournament yesterday, what a perfect time to start two-hand reporting! Practiced a little bit at home, game starts, called my first foul. . .on number 72!! Oh well. . . . .

Hold a sideways "2" with your right hand.

Might have to explain why you're doing that to the table if they ask, but they'll figure it out quickly enough.


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[Rich]

Using two handed reporting in HS games, prior to this change, struck me as big timing....or attempting to.

I can't imagine quite the same furor in the reverse now.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

Using two handed reporting in HS games, prior to this change, struck me as big timing....or attempting to.

I can't imagine quite the same furor in the reverse now.

And if someone uses one hand to report, I probably will hardly say anything to them if there is a camp. The only issue i might suggest is practice it, but otherwise I will not care unless we get a specific mandate. Something tells me we will not get such a mandate in our state. The head clinician who is also a college supervisor did not even like the two handed reporting when it was implemented at that level.

Peace

[Rich]

That's up to your state, obviously.

I'm sure others will expect consistency.