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Old Wed May 17, 2017, 07:47pm
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Out of bounds ruling?

Was playing a pick up game and came across a situation where there were differing views on the play. Hoping someone here can set me straight.

I ran to save a ball from going out of bounds at was successful at tossing it back in before going out of bounds. The ball bounced off a member of the other team and back in to my hands while I was still out of bounds. Who's ball should it be?

I believe in the NBA, that it would be considered the other teams ball since it touched me last... even though I was out of bounds.

In the NCAA and high school ball, it's the opposite call, right? The ball should go to my team since the opposing team knocked it out regardless of whether I was there.

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Old Wed May 17, 2017, 07:55pm
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You're overthinking it. The ball wasn't OOB until it touched you...because you were OOB. You caused it to be out. So it's the other team's ball. If it had touched the floor OOB first, that would be a different story.

There is no difference to this ruling in any rule set in the world.

However, thank you for posting something about an actual play. It has been a while. I hate the off-season.


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Old Wed May 17, 2017, 08:00pm
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Thanks for the quick response!
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Old Wed May 17, 2017, 08:48pm
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However, thank you for posting something about an actual play. It has been a while. I hate the off-season.
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Old Wed May 17, 2017, 10:23pm
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The ball should go to my team since the opposing team knocked it out regardless of whether I was there.
Back in ancient times, if this were a throwin play (which it isn't), the throwin team would lose the ball because the inbounder "caused" the ball to go out of bounds because the inbounder threw the ball off an opponent who was out of bounds.

It always amazes me that some vestige of this ancient rule, in one form, or another, hangs around even though the rule changed over thirty years ago.
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Old Wed May 17, 2017, 11:55pm
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Old Thu May 18, 2017, 10:00am
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Back in ancient times, if this were a throwin play (which it isn't), the throwin team would lose the ball because the inbounder "caused" the ball to go out of bounds because the inbounder threw the ball off an opponent who was out of bounds.

It always amazes me that some vestige of this ancient rule, in one form, or another, hangs around even though the rule changed over thirty years ago.
What is ancient times? And what rule set?

That frankly doesn't make much sense as an opponent should not be out of bounds on an inbound play. (Are you sure you aren't crossing this with the ball touching an out of bounds teammate, which would be a violation on the inbounder for not throwing the ball into play?)
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Wtf Freddy that might be the worst meme I've ever seen.
Curse you, AremRed. I got a grin out of Freddy's line but didn't click on the meme until you wrote this. Now my eyes hurt.
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Old Thu May 18, 2017, 10:49am
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(Are you sure you aren't crossing this with the ball touching an out of bounds teammate, which would be a violation on the inbounder for not throwing the ball into play?)
What BillyMac was describing was an interpretation of the rule you cite. Say the inbounder threw the ball across the court (we aren't talking about a defender on the same sideline or endline as the throw-in spot) and the defense touched the ball while OOB. The ruling was this was a throw-in violation for not throwing the ball directly into play and was not an OOB violation on the defense.
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Old Thu May 18, 2017, 10:53am
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What BillyMac was describing was an interpretation of the rule you cite. Say the inbounder threw the ball across the court (we aren't talking about a defender on the same sideline or endline as the throw-in spot) and the defense touched the ball while OOB. The ruling was this was a throw-in violation for not throwing the ball directly into play and was not an OOB violation on the defense.
Yes, that was the an "interpretation" of the rule for 1-2 years.....a very bad interpretation too.
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Old Thu May 18, 2017, 01:36pm
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Yes, that was the an "interpretation" of the rule for 1-2 years.....a very bad interpretation too.
Interesting. And mind boggling.
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Wtf Freddy that might be the worst meme I've ever seen.
Hey, that took me four hours at work to do.
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Old Thu May 18, 2017, 06:37pm
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What is ancient times? And what rule set?
Early 1980's. NFHS.
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Old Fri May 19, 2017, 10:38am
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Early 1980's. NFHS.
Interesting. May have been in effect while I was playing. Did a coach get Td up every time it was applied?
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Old Fri May 19, 2017, 11:13am
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Early 1980's. NFHS.
I thought it was in the 90s....after I started officiating.
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