This won't get much sympathy - Coach Being Fired..for WHAT?!

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

This is an epidemic. I bet most of us could mention a local coach who was fired because an administrator refused to stand up to a whiny parent or three.

We shouldn't be surprised. This is the culture we've made....and far outside of basketball. Too many people believe it is other people's responsibility to make their life better and complain as a way to get things their way instead of working for it.

[CJP]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Millenials. Ugh.

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The children would be millennials so the problem lies with the generation that raised them. Looking at the parents that caused this coach to be fired I would say the are in their 40s. During my short coaching experience, this generation of parent were the worst.

The best coaching job would be at an orphanage

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by CJP

The best coaching job would be at an orphanage

Nice line. I've been saying that for years.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by CJP

The children would be millennials so the problem lies with the generation that raised them. Looking at the parents that caused this coach to be fired I would say the are in their 40s. During my short coaching experience, this generation of parent were the worst.

The best coaching job would be at an orphanage

It isn't all of them...not all parents raised their children to expect that they would be handed everything, or even anything. Some (many) have still taught their children that they actually have to earn what they want....and they'll be the ones who are more likely to move into successful adult lives while the other keep fussing about something not being fair or easy enough.

You see plenty of complainers/whiners and the doers everywhere you look. The complainers/whiners are everywhere (just look at your nightly news), but, there are still plenty of doers out there.

[Pantherdreams]

I can't say the problem is for sure this or that but I can say if your bank mismanaged your money you would be pissed if there was little recourse . . . Unfortunately misguided world views by parents and society alike have turned sports and school into year round training grounds for kids and their families to invest their way through to hopefully get scholarships and security out the other end. By the time a kid gets to high school their academics and extra curricular are a multi thousand dollar investment compounded over a decade, with hopes there will be a big pay off. When coach/player and elements of those dynamics don't meet "expectation" you get the same visceral reaction as if you have taken their nest egg.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

It isn't all of them...not all parents raised their children to expect that they would be handed everything, or even anything. Some (many) have still taught their children that they actually have to earn what they want....and they'll be the ones who are more likely to move into successful adult lives while the other keep fussing about something not being fair or easy enough.

You see plenty of complainers/whiners and the doers everywhere you look. The complainers/whiners are everywhere (just look at your nightly news), but, there are still plenty of doers out there.

I've been unhappy with daddy basketball coaches, but I kept my mouth shut and told my daughter to work harder.

When I'm at games, I sit away from other parents.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

I've been unhappy with daddy basketball coaches, but I kept my mouth shut and told my daughter to work harder.

When I'm at games, I sit away from other parents.

I was a daddy coach for 13 years, but in soccer. Almost all of my parents over the 13 years were great. I only had problems with 2 that I remember and both were about playing time or how I used their child.

The first was recreational and in the younger ages I kept playing time equal by sticking to a planned rotation where everyone would play within 1-2 minutes of each other over a game. The only time I deviated was when there was an injury and someone had to fill in. Yet, I had a parent complain that their child was being shorted. Being the tech person I am, I had a spreadsheet where I kept track of playing time over the season and the parent didn't have much else to say when I showed her the data.

In the other case, it was a older, more competitive level and a parent who was new to the team thought I was not giving their child a chance to play to their strengths. She played but not where her parents wanted her to be playing all the time...in the "star" positions. In practice, their child was constantly getting beat by most of the team and just was not very good. I still played her a fair number of minutes (everyone played) but she wanted always play the same position as half of the team and it was not possible to accommodate everyone as much as they wanted.

I took a couple years away from one of the teams and the parents begged me to return because the parent that took over the coaching while I was out was anything but fair...it was all focused on his daughter and it wasn't even subtle. She was good, but in soccer 1 person can't carry a team.

[RefsNCoaches]

Originally Posted by Rich

I've been unhappy with daddy basketball coaches, but I kept my mouth shut and told my daughter to work harder.

When I'm at games, I sit away from other parents.

When I coached my daughter in travel ball from 3rd grade to 7th grade...6th grade was the first year they could play for their school team. I wasn't the coach of the school team and it was her first time playing for someone other than me. The coach did a good job with the kids IMHO....I had no complaints, probably cause I've been in his shoes and also cause "I get it". I never had crazy thoughts that my kid was the best player and deserved anything....I treated her that way coaching her. If anything, I was probably less fair to her than other kids because I didn't want that perception of being "Daddy Coach".

I never complained about anything when she played for school team and like you, I had to sit away from the other parents. The same parents of kids I was coaching in travel ball for a couple years leading into school team.

I can't say all of them but several were quite comical and animated and had plenty to say from the bleachers. I'm sure the same things I was hearing as a spectator about the school coach and/or some of these kids were the same things being said when I was the travel team coach.

I was asked once by a parent, "Why do you just sit there?" My reply was the same as it was when I would do my pre-season meeting with parents as their kids' coach. We all have a role and I'm not coaching this team, I'm not reffing the game and I'm not playing in the game...I'm here as a parent and I know my role. Cheer the kids.

I guess those that can, do...I'm a much better sports parent because I have coached and officiated. I'm a much better coach because I've officiated and I'm a much better official because I've coached...I understand the dynamic and landscape of each role. If I hadn't coached or officiated, I don't think I would have the mindset I do when it comes to youth sports in general....I'd probably be "one of those parents" and I'm so glad I'm not.

[Kansas Ref]

Refs-N-Coach:
By virtue of having seen the game from "both sides" [i.e., a ref and a coach] you have acquired a well-balanced perspective which has evidently provided you with the primary beneficial factor of youth sports: an ability to Enjoy the Game. Thanks for sharing!

[rpayne64bball]

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[Lcubed48]

Originally Posted by rpayne64bball

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Yo, what have you done with BNR?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Lcubed48

Yo, what have you done with BNR?

I decided to come above ground....LOL I was testing the Tapatalk app.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I decided to come above ground....LOL I was testing the Tapatalk app.

Just log into the forum on Tapatalk with your Raymond ID. I'm posting this from Tapatalk right now.

Have to say, I always thought you had one of the best usernames here.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rich

Just log into the forum on Tapatalk with your Raymond ID. I'm posting this from Tapatalk right now.

Took me a while, but I finally figured that out. You'd think an IT guy would catch on a little quicker.

Originally Posted by Rich

Have to say, I always thought you had one of the best usernames here.

It was actually derived from the town I've called home for the last 18+ years. Newport News is known as Bad Newz around these parts, and often for good reason. My youngest graduates from high school in June and I'll be working on selling my house and moving to a different community.

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Took me a while, but I finally figured that out. You'd think an IT guy would catch on a little quicker.



It was actually derived from the town I've called home for the last 18+ years. Newport News is known as Bad Newz around these parts, and often for good reason. My youngest graduates from high school in June and I'll be working on selling my house and moving to a different community.

We'd love to have you up here