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RefsNCoaches Fri Apr 07, 2017 01:15pm

This won't get much sympathy - Coach Being Fired..for WHAT?!
 
Check this out...from Central Indiana...

Guys a good Coach...this has parents written all over it!

This school is taking a BEATING on the Dan Dakich show which air on local radio station here in Indy....

Change at the helm? Parents rally in support of Cougars coach

Bad Zebra Fri Apr 07, 2017 03:53pm

This isn't very surprising. This coach sounds like an old school, hard nose coach that would get tough with his players to try to elevate their games...kinda like Geno at UConn...with similar results! His methods probably don't play well in an affluent, lily-white suburban school (I don't know anything about this school district, I'm just guessing). My guess would be he pissed off the wrong parent...he was mean to their little flowers...or she didn't get enough playing time and feelings and self esteem were bruised. Get rid of him and bring in a coach who hands out participation trophies and orange slices at the end of the 3 and 17 season.

Mark Padgett Fri Apr 07, 2017 06:10pm

These guys don't recognize a dedicated coach. The first reason for firing him: "First, he didn’t wear enough Greenfield-Central apparel."

You gotta be kidding. If they said that to me, I would tell them I wear a jockstrap with the school logo on it and if they didn't believe me I would show them. :cool:

BillyMac Sun Apr 09, 2017 04:03pm

Go For The Jugular ...
 
As a middle school basketball coach, try not starting the grandchild (who wants to start) of a town councilman. Even with the backing of the athletic director, you still can't fight city hall.

This "helicopter parent" (they hover over their children) thing is going too far. My son is a sociology professor at a top rated college and he tells me that he gets calls, and emails, all the time from parents complaining about their "children's" unfair grading, in a few cases, from the parents of graduate students.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-GHhBwaJSlW...+parents+1.jpg

crosscountry55 Sun Apr 09, 2017 09:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1004614)
This "helicopter parent" (they hover over their children) thing is going too far. My son is a sociology professor at a top rated college and he tells me that he gets calls, and emails, all the time from parents complaining about their "children's" unfair grading, in a few cases, from the parents of graduate students.


Millenials. Ugh.

https://youtu.be/NEsUudZvntE


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bucky Sun Apr 09, 2017 09:57pm

My guess is that this will be a classic case of "you don't know what you got, until its gone." They will suffer a streak of poor performing teams and all be ashamed of what they did to him. Problem is that the Super will have retired, the AD will have switched jobs, and several school board seats will have been vacated and refilled. The shame will simply disappear and a bunch of positive influence will simply be gone. Hey, sounds as if this might have happened around where I grew up.;)

AremRed Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:01pm

There is more to the story here, keep in mind that only information we have on why the coach was fired (the essential question) is from the coach himself, recounting what he was told in a meeting. Of course it would be in his best interest to relate the things that make the firing seem petty and keep the possibly more serious issues under wraps.

BillyMac Mon Apr 10, 2017 06:35am

The Grass Is Always Greener ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1004622)
... the Super will have retired, the AD will have switched jobs ...

For administrators, and coaches, it's like musical chairs here in Connecticut. Superintendents, principals, and athletic directors, get a few years of experience, and then use that experience to move on to a better paying job a few towns away. Back in the olden days, when teachers didn't make a decent living wage, many coached to supplement their income, often coaching more than one sport. Now that teachers here in Connecticut are well paid, the days of a history teacher coaching baseball and basketball for many years are long gone. Many coaches aren't even teachers, with no ties to the school, or the town, that they coach in. They coach for a few years and then move on to a better coaching position.

I can't deny someone looking to make a better wage to support their family, but like I said, it's like musical chairs around here, and as an official, one never knows who one will see on the bench when they first walk into the gymnasium, or hand over paperwork to an athletic director that they've only just met for the first time.

"You can't tell the players without a scorecard." (Harry M. Stevens, 1900)

rockyroad Mon Apr 10, 2017 02:44pm

It is a reality in the high school coaching world that parents have enormous influence on whether a coaching contract is renewed or not. And, unfortunately, many parents know the correct buzzwords to use and correct buttons to push to get the coach in trouble. As I have stated before, I moved to coaching two seasons ago...in my first season, I was accused by a parent of "bullying" their son because I made him run "lines" after practice. For being late. He was 10 minutes late and so ran 10 sets of lines. Just like other kids who were late. The parents accusation to the AD was that I shouldn't "single their son out in front of the team" since he was late because they were at a family event. Fortunately for me, the day he was late our practice was right after school and so there was no "family event".

It used to bug me when coaches would complain to supervisors/assignors and use all the right buzzwords...like "he isn't approachable" or he "won't communicate"...parents have learned the same thing and are using it against coaches when their little darling doesn't get the playing time he/she "deserves".

ODog Mon Apr 10, 2017 02:59pm

Braintree High School Parents Force 2 Time State Champion Girl’s Basketball Coach To Resign Because Their Loser Kids Don’t Get Enough Playing Time – Turtleboy

RefsNCoaches Mon Apr 10, 2017 03:18pm


:eek:

Take parents out of it and you have a nice thing in youth sports...

Mark Padgett Mon Apr 10, 2017 03:51pm

Looks like the parents at Braintree HS have too many trees and not enough brains. :p

Diesel Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:21am

Updated article with the emails parents sent to the coach.

Here’s The INSANE Emails Out Of Control Braintree Parents Sent Coach Kelly McDonnell That Forced The 2 Time State Champion To Resign – Turtleboy

Rich Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 1004623)
There is more to the story here, keep in mind that only information we have on why the coach was fired (the essential question) is from the coach himself, recounting what he was told in a meeting. Of course it would be in his best interest to relate the things that make the firing seem petty and keep the possibly more serious issues under wraps.

This is an epidemic. I bet most of us could mention a local coach who was fired because an administrator refused to stand up to a whiny parent or three.

Matt Tue Apr 11, 2017 12:38pm

I see a lot of one-sided and non-credible information here.


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