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Old Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:37pm
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A single judgement call in a game should NOT be a determining factor if a crew advances to the next round. But if the entire crew mis-applies adjudication of a procedure (using replay incorrectly, allowing substitutes to enter the game incorrectly, correctable error situations), then the crew (even the alternate) should be held accountable for their mistake. At this level of the NCAA tournament, procedure wise, everything should be conducted correctly. All things being equal, the mis-application or adjudication of a rule/procedure is just cause for a crew not to move on when other crews have their games go on without errors.
Yet an official advanced out of this game this year.
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Old Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:41pm
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Perhaps the NCAA did not care because it was a media non-story?

Just look at the Gonzaga-West Virginia game from last night....is anyone talking about how the officials used replay incorrectly? Nope.
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Old Fri Mar 24, 2017, 06:04pm
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Perhaps the NCAA did not care because it was a media non-story?

Just look at the Gonzaga-West Virginia game from last night....is anyone talking about how the officials used replay incorrectly? Nope.
I had an excellent discussion after that game with an officiating friend. We debated whether the NCAA cared more about following the rules and proper monitor procedure or actually getting the call correct based upon what happened on the court. We concluded that ultimately the NCAA wants the correct decision made on the play. So I currently believe that if the officials fail to follow the rules or the monitor procedure, but actually get the call right that the NCAA (JD Collins) will support the decision.
It's a matter of not having to take heat for a glaring mistake during the high profile event.

Anyone agree or disagree with me?

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Old Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:54pm
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I had an excellent discussion after that game with an officiating friend. We debated whether the NCAA cared more about following the rules and proper monitor procedure or actually getting the call correct based upon what happened on the court. We concluded that ultimately the NCAA wants the correct decision made on the play. So I currently believe that if the officials fail to follow the rules or the monitor procedure, but actually get the call right that the NCAA (JD Collins) will support the decision.
It's a matter of not having to take heat for a glaring mistake during the high profile event.

Anyone agree or disagree with me?
Agree of course, I think the NCAA is ok with whatever keeps them out of the press.
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Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 08:14am
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Not just one, but two advanced. I have yet to see the CE for myself but it most likely "flew under the radar".

It is interesting that all for "R"s from the Greeneville region are working either the Sweet 16 or Elite 8.
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Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 02:24pm
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After seeing some of the notable names that didn't work the Sweet Sixteen (Higgins and Kimble are 2 of the big ones I follow), and not having access to the NCAA manual, what is the rule about officials advancing to the next round if they didn't work the previous round?

I find it hard to believe that at the very least, Higgins' season is done. Kimble's might be. Is it possible that either of them can still work a regional final even if they didn't work a regional semifinal?
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Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 02:36pm
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After seeing some of the notable names that didn't work the Sweet Sixteen (Higgins and Kimble are 2 of the big ones I follow), and not having access to the NCAA manual, what is the rule about officials advancing to the next round if they didn't work the previous round?

I find it hard to believe that at the very least, Higgins' season is done. Kimble's might be. Is it possible that either of them can still work a regional final even if they didn't work a regional semifinal?
10 officials go to each regional site- 6 will work the Sweet 16, 3 will work the Elite 8, one is the alternate for all three games. Lots of April names (Driscoll, Higgins, Stephens, Eades, McCall, to name a few) will probably show up today unless others had better first weekends.
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Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 04:33pm
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10 officials go to each regional site- 6 will work the Sweet 16, 3 will work the Elite 8, one is the alternate for all three games. Lots of April names (Driscoll, Higgins, Stephens, Eades, McCall, to name a few) will probably show up today unless others had better first weekends.
From what I understand, Pat Driscoll (nor anyone from the Wisc vs Villanova crew) advanced. Randy McCall will work the KC regional final.
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