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So, presumably, anyone not calling this a backcourt violation would have allowed him to catch the ball with two hands, make a few fakes and then dribble.
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even though he/she is not touching the ball while he/she is out of bounds. The second part of the rule certainly refers specifically to an out of bounds/inbound boundary line. I can't deny that, it's right there in black and white. So if a frontcourt player is dribbling parallel to, and very close to the division line, he may be able to legally touch the division line with is foot, but has to have his hand in contact with the ball to have a backcourt violation when his foot is touching the division line? The term boundary is used in the rulebook to refer to many boundaries, i.e., the boundary of the free throw lane line. Can't we use intent and purpose of the rule to interpret a frontcourt player dribbling near the division line "boundary" to call a backcourt violation no matter if the ball is in contact with his hand, or not, at the time that his foot touches the boundary?
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I would like to agree with you, but the rule specifically states "out of bounds".
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By the same token, anyone calling this a violation would award him a timeout if he were requesting it during the moment his hand was on the ball initially before stepping into the backcourt.
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4-9: Boundary lines of the court consist of end lines and sidelines. But in some cases the term "boundary" appears to be used generically: 1-4: The three-point field-goal line shall be the same color as the freethrow lane boundary lines and free-throw semicircle. 1-5: A free-throw lane, 12 feet wide measured to the outside of each lane boundary … There are three lane spaces on each lane boundary line … 9-1: … the vertical plane of the outside edge of any lane boundary 9-7: … touching the lane boundary
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Let me get this straight...
I'm dribbling the ball near the division line. After the ball leaves my hand, but before it returns back up to it, I step back and touch the division line. That's not a backcourt violation since the ball wasn't touching my hand, or any part of my body, when I stepped on the line? |
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Correct. I believe I'm the one who brought to light the fact that the rule about a dribbler stepping on a boundary line while dribbling was specific about the OOB line. Yet, I've always called the division line the same with regards to the dribbler stepping on it and will continue to do so because I believe that the intent is to treat the dribbler as continuously touching the ball for the purposes of location.
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1) Definition of boundary lines are for the court, indicate endlines/sidelines, provide for IB/OB, and make no mention of the division line. 2) Ball location definition in regards to FC/BC indicate being in contact with the ball. 3) Dribble definition regarding interrupted dribble specifically mentions the OOB violation but not BC violation. 4) I would not say "generically". Your examples are specifically describing the FT area. I am not aware of any other uses other than IB/OB. I could be wrong and maybe there are other references. ?? 5) Rule 7 has references to boundaries and they all involve IB/OB. Same for Case book. 6) Previously mentioned rule (BillMac?) regarding dribbler and contact with ball was specifically for OOB. 7) No rule/case for situation involving division line and that play certainly was not the first time it ever occurred. This all leads me to interpret that dribbler must be in contact with the ball for BC violation when touching the division line.
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