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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 10:19am
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.... So, with that reality, why be anywhere near there during that time period?
Because most times, if I'm T'ing a coach, I am already tableside. And I'm not going to run off unnaturally just to avoid his a$$-hat behavior.
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Because most times if I'm T'ing a coach, I am already tableside. And I'm not going to run off unnaturally just to avoid his a$$-hat behavior.


I don't run, I walk away. I think there's a difference.
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 10:22am
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I don't run, I walk away. I think there's a difference.
Either way, I'm not going to avoid the table because of the coach. If I feel I need to be there, then the coach is just going to have to avoid doing anything super stupid.
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 10:27am
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Either way, I'm not going to avoid the table because of the coach. If I feel I need to be there, then the coach is just going to have to avoid doing anything super stupid.
Where do you go for the free throws?
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 01:44pm
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Where do you go for the free throws?
Lead or Trail opposite by the time the free throws are taken. I'm not hanging around after I know everything at the table is straight.
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 02:04pm
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“Our section has one of the toughest ejection policies in the state,” Schniepp said. “Three games is for the use of profanity. Six games is for something physical.”

All he did was chase him down to the other side of the court and since the official kept moving there was no contact, and he only used the word fiddlesticks so I think 1 game is more than enough. In fact the official has been suspended for 2 months for awful "game management".
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 03:50pm
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“Our section has one of the toughest ejection policies in the state,” Schniepp said. “Three games is for the use of profanity. Six games is for something physical.”

All he did was chase him down to the other side of the court and since the official kept moving there was no contact, and he only used the word fiddlesticks so I think 1 game is more than enough. In fact the official has been suspended for 2 months for awful "game management".
I think it's clear what he is saying and I don't see profanity. He appears to say, "How do you make that call" about 7 times in a row.
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Lead or Trail opposite by the time the free throws are taken. I'm not hanging around after I know everything at the table is straight.
I think Rich's point is that as soon as the T is called, he'd prefer to head straight for the FT administration. Do we really need to stand in the coach's pocket to make sure it all gets sorted while the coach is still fuming?
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I think Rich's point is that as soon as the T is called, he'd prefer to head straight for the FT administration. Do we really need to stand in the coach's pocket to make sure it all gets sorted while the coach is still fuming?
That's me. But I respect BNR's view, too.
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 03:20pm
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I think Rich's point is that as soon as the T is called, he'd prefer to head straight for the FT administration. Do we really need to stand in the coach's pocket to make sure it all gets sorted while the coach is still fuming?
I think individual personalities and composure-ability come into play also. Also realize, that when I'm at the table, the coach should still be about 15-20 feet away if he is still in the coaching box. I can conduct business without re-engaging the coach. The problem is that coaches seem to think that a technical call makes it alright to leave the coaching box in order to seek out a conversation. That's when a partner should be running interference and keeping the coach in his box.
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 02:14pm
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Lead or Trail opposite by the time the free throws are taken. I'm not hanging around after I know everything at the table is straight.
Are you, for the purposes of the T, deviating from NFHS mechanics to get away from the coach or does your state go opposite normally?

If following the NFHS mechanics, the calling official will always be tableside (3-person, or on any foul with FTs in 2-person).
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Wow. Complete failure by the coaching staff. None of his assistants actively tried to restrain the coach and it looks like a female parent/fan from the stands has to come on the court to grab him after his 2nd T.

And I understand they wanted to pack the place and it seems like it was a great atmosphere to ref in but I'm not having cheerleaders breathing on my neck or all those people on the endline like that.
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 02:17pm
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Are you, for the purposes of the T, deviating from NFHS mechanics to get away from the coach or does your state go opposite normally?

If following the NFHS mechanics, the calling official will always be tableside (3-person, or on any foul with FTs in 2-person).
I don't know of a single official who doesn't go opposite after whacking a coach. If you do, then I guess I know of one.
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 02:22pm
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If following the NFHS mechanics, the calling official will always be tableside (3-person, or on any foul with FTs in 2-person).
The NFHS manual definitely does not "always" have the calling official going tableside in 3-man.

And for this situation, there's even a blurb about "avoiding a confrontational situation" or something to that effect.
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Old Thu Mar 02, 2017, 03:15pm
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Are you, for the purposes of the T, deviating from NFHS mechanics to get away from the coach or does your state go opposite normally?

If following the NFHS mechanics, the calling official will always be tableside (3-person, or on any foul with FTs in 2-person).
I go away from the table, except for occasional AAU coaches who think they are intimidating someone. Then I'll stand tableside so I can get in a few choice words.
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