1.9 Sec left in Playoff game TO Granted with none left leads to Coach Ejection (Video

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Altor

That official just kept backing up all the way across the court and let the coach follow him. It wasn't until he backed into the crowd that he realized he wasn't getting help from his partners and had to send him packing himself. Partners needed to step up there.

Actually it was the partner that gave the T. But why it took that long is beyond me. I think this is why we have to get rid of the addige, "We should not give both Ts on a coach." That has always been silly to me and here is why it is silly. And I would not have been backing up all the way across the court either.

Peace

[Rich]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually it was the partner that gave the T. But why it took that long is beyond me. I think this is why we have to get rid of the addige, "We should not give both Ts on a coach." That has always been silly to me and here is why it is silly. And I would not have been backing up all the way across the court either.



Peace

I assigned 2 games where an official double tapped the coach. In both instances, it's cause the official felt like it was his duty to get close to the table and report the technical like it was just another foul.

This doesn't fit that scenario. That coach needed to go.....sooner.

[JRutledge]

Here is the kid requesting a timeout.



Peace

[Rich]

And where did the official go after the first technical?

Over to the table.

Is there anyone in the building that *didn't* know what happened there?

I wish officials would STOP doing that.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Rich

And where did the official go after the first technical?

Over to the table.

Is there anyone in the building that *didn't* know what happened there?

I wish officials would STOP doing that.

Don't make an excuse for the coach's crap behavior Rich. Although I would have just T'd and reported from where I stood, this coach's behavior stands on it's own. As soon as I take 4-5 steps away and notice he's coming after me, he's done. I would've tossed my partner too for that crappy attempt at helping out.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by deecee

Don't make an excuse for the coach's crap behavior Rich. Although I would have just T'd and reported from where I stood, this coach's behavior stands on it's own. As soon as I take 4-5 steps away and notice he's coming after me, he's done. I would've tossed my partner too for that crappy attempt at helping out.

Not a single excuse made for the coach. He lasted longer than he should've.

This is an independent observation I've made a few times this season, including last night when I called a head coach technical and my partner asked me "did you report it"?

No, I brought my hands together into a T and hit my whistle. Everyone knew, including the table and the coach. I went right to the C to get opposite the table. If he wants to get me, he's gonna have to come a long way.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Rich

And where did the official go after the first technical?

Over to the table.

Is there anyone in the building that *didn't* know what happened there?

I wish officials would STOP doing that.

What do you want the official to do--skip the reporting of the technical foul to the scorer?

Originally Posted by Rich

Not a single excuse made for the coach. He lasted longer than he should've.

This is an independent observation I've made a few times this season, including last night when I called a head coach technical and my partner asked me "did you report it"?

No, I brought my hands together into a T and hit my whistle. Everyone knew, including the table and the coach. I went right to the C to get opposite the table. If he wants to get me, he's gonna have to come a long way.

I guess so.

You are wrong and everyone knows it. Sad that you push this incorrect advice upon the officials whom you assign.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

Not a single excuse made for the coach. He lasted longer than he should've.

This is an independent observation I've made a few times this season, including last night when I called a head coach technical and my partner asked me "did you report it"?

No, I brought my hands together into a T and hit my whistle. Everyone knew, including the table and the coach. I went right to the C to get opposite the table. If he wants to get me, he's gonna have to come a long way.

This has me thinking. I've had exactly 1 double tap, and as it happens, I was right in front of the bench the entire time. It was on an AC, though, so I'm not sure it was avoidable since it all happened so fast.

I called the first one, and happened to be in front of his bench. As I made the call and turned to the table to make the report, he started the sarcastic cheering that earned him his 2nd. I wonder, had I immediately started walking to administer the FTs, would he have taken the opportunity to settle down?

In that game (6th grade boys travel league in the summer), I doubt it.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Here is the kid requesting a timeout.



Peace

Not sure I want to pour gasoline on this fire, but in any other circumstance, #1 should be getting a T too, for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.

Also, in reference to Rich's comment about coaches believing teenagers over professionals, you're right, but I wouldn't be surprised if the coach never sees THIS film. Unfortunately, I bet he watches his manager's sideline film, doesn't see clear evidence of the timeout request, and still thinks he's right. Too bad.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Not sure I want to pour gasoline on this fire, but in any other circumstance, #1 should be getting a T too, for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.
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I'm confident that at that point, many of the blue team members were fully authorized to leave at any time.

[walt]

Here is a follow up article on the game. The Foothills team still advanced because of the playoff structure but apparently played their next game without the head coach due to a one game suspension. The coach comments on the player calling timeout. Obviously in the heat of the moment, his emotions got the best of him.

Foothills Christian coach suspended one game - The San Diego Union-Tribune

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by walt

Here is a follow up article on the game. The Foothills team still advanced because of the playoff structure but apparently played their next game without the head coach due to a one game suspension. The coach comments on the player calling timeout. Obviously in the heat of the moment, his emotions got the best of him.

Foothills Christian coach suspended one game - The San Diego Union-Tribune

Quote from the ejected coaches AD at the end of the article:

Honestly, I think the situation could have been handled better on both sides — ours and the officials.

What the heck does he think the officials could have/should have done differently?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by frezer11

#1 should be getting a T too, for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.

Maybe he's going to the little boys room? Is that an authorized reason?

A player shall not: Leave the playing court for an unauthorized reason to demonstrate resentment, disgust or intimidation

Am I correct to assume that this is only for "players", not for substitutes, or bench personnel, or other team members?

Also, this refers to leaving the playing court, not leaving the gymnasium? Right?

[BillyMac]

I certainly hope that one of the officials told the coach that he had used up all of his timeouts.

The scorer shall: Record the time-out information charged to each team (who and
when) and notify a team and its coach, through an official, whenever that team is
granted its final allotted charged time-out.

Whenever I do that, the coach almost immediately tells his players not to request a timeout.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I certainly hope that one of the officials told the coach that he had used up all of his timeouts.

The scorer shall: Record the time-out information charged to each team (who and
when) and notify a team and its coach, through an official, whenever that team is
granted its final allotted charged time-out.

Whenever I do that, the coach almost immediately tells his players not to request a timeout.

And what difference was that going to make? If the coaches do not know their timeout situation, that is on them. Whether we tell them or not does not change that. And they can go to the table like they do with everything else they want to know. Heck it gets on my nerves when the table tells me when both teams have 2 or more timeouts. It is irrelevant to me as it should be to everyone.

Peace