1.9 Sec left in Playoff game TO Granted with none left leads to Coach Ejection (Video

[Raymond]

Normal fouls I'm as far from the table as I can be. Techs I come closer to make sure it is annotated correctly and there is no mis-communication.

[Altor]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually it was the partner that gave the T. But why it took that long is beyond me. I think this is why we have to get rid of the addige, "We should not give both Ts on a coach." That has always been silly to me and here is why it is silly. And I would not have been backing up all the way across the court either.

Peace

After seeing the other view, I understand now. However, seeing that angle makes it even worse. He has to make a gesture to his partner begging for help.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Rich

And where did the official go after the first technical?

Over to the table.

Is there anyone in the building that *didn't* know what happened there?

I wish officials would STOP doing that.

What do you want the official to do--skip the reporting of the technical foul to the scorer?

Originally Posted by Rich

Not a single excuse made for the coach. He lasted longer than he should've.

This is an independent observation I've made a few times this season, including last night when I called a head coach technical and my partner asked me "did you report it"?

No, I brought my hands together into a T and hit my whistle. Everyone knew, including the table and the coach. I went right to the C to get opposite the table. If he wants to get me, he's gonna have to come a long way.

I guess so.

You are wrong and everyone knows it. Sad that you push this incorrect advice upon the officials whom you assign.

[newladyref]

Did anyone notice number 1 talking to the official before the free throw? Looks like he was telling him that he was going to call the time out ahead of time.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by frezer11

I'm sure I'm misinterpreting your comment but when you say get close to the table, and follow that with report the technical like it was just another foul, is this what you expect/teach? If it was just another foul (which it is), then the official needs to get to the reporting area (or where the scorekeeper can see you, depending on which suburb of Rome you live...) and report it, and then move on. Are you saying that normal fouls need to be reported closer to the table? Or for that matter that techs need to be reported further away from the table??

It's not "just another foul" no matter how much this phrase is used in camp speak.

I'm saying the reporting area is a fairly big rectangle, which can be expanded even further if needed. I find it funny that the reporting area is considered fairly unimportant overall, but when a coach gets whacked it all of a sudden gets important.

I continue to see officials get closer and right in the kitchen of the coach they just whacked.

No, I didn't run over and report the technical Tuesday. My partner, who ended up tableside, who I talked to prior to the FTs, slid over to the table and made sure it was scored correctly while we were administering the free throws. I'm not sure anyone even noticed him doing that.

Yup, Nevada, I tell my officials to take care of business, but I also think that the 30 seconds after a technical foul is usually the worst time for the coach and the official in terms of their mental/emotional state and it's best for the calling official to get away from the bench area. It does not serve the game well to have ejections that are avoidable. The one in the video was going to happen. But that doesn't mean that I can't point out that I think there are ways to minimize the possibility in other games.

Not all coaches are stable enough to handle a technical foul well and that 30 seconds of space gives the coach a chance to calm down and/or explode....but that's wholly on him.

Yes, I assign. In that role, I've made it clear that coaches, in general, get too few technical fouls and that officials, in general, allow too much poor sportsmanship. But coaches are human and receiving a technical foul usually calms things down....but not in the first 30 seconds or so. So, with that reality, why be anywhere near there during that time period?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rich

.... So, with that reality, why be anywhere near there during that time period?

Because most times, if I'm T'ing a coach, I am already tableside. And I'm not going to run off unnaturally just to avoid his a$$-hat behavior.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Because most times if I'm T'ing a coach, I am already tableside. And I'm not going to run off unnaturally just to avoid his a$$-hat behavior.

I don't run, I walk away. I think there's a difference.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rich

I don't run, I walk away. I think there's a difference.

Either way, I'm not going to avoid the table because of the coach. If I feel I need to be there, then the coach is just going to have to avoid doing anything super stupid.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Either way, I'm not going to avoid the table because of the coach. If I feel I need to be there, then the coach is just going to have to avoid doing anything super stupid.

Where do you go for the free throws?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by sj

During a time out all players are considered bench personnel and they are able to leave the gym.

I assume that's sarcasm? (I did not read the entire thread or watch the video)

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I assume that's sarcasm? (I did not read the entire thread or watch the video)

I was guessing so myself.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by frezer11

Not sure I want to pour gasoline on this fire, but in any other circumstance, #1 should be getting a T too, for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.
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I'm confident that at that point, many of the blue team members were fully authorized to leave at any time.

[walt]

Here is a follow up article on the game. The Foothills team still advanced because of the playoff structure but apparently played their next game without the head coach due to a one game suspension. The coach comments on the player calling timeout. Obviously in the heat of the moment, his emotions got the best of him.

Foothills Christian coach suspended one game - The San Diego Union-Tribune

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by walt

Here is a follow up article on the game. The Foothills team still advanced because of the playoff structure but apparently played their next game without the head coach due to a one game suspension. The coach comments on the player calling timeout. Obviously in the heat of the moment, his emotions got the best of him.

Foothills Christian coach suspended one game - The San Diego Union-Tribune

Quote from the ejected coaches AD at the end of the article:

Honestly, I think the situation could have been handled better on both sides — ours and the officials.

What the heck does he think the officials could have/should have done differently?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

What the heck does he think the officials could have/should have done differently?

My thoughts exactly.