Simultaneous common & intentional fouls

[Cadet]

Is it a dead ball foul if the whistle hasn't blown yet?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Cadet

Is it a dead ball foul if the whistle hasn't blown yet?

Ball is dead on the foul, the whistle may come after. This is just a very "odd" double foul. I would personally either have ignored the second contact or go with the T. A double foul is to be used when the contact is equal and at the same time as far as real life application is concerned. In a case where a kid goes to take a charge and its a block and the offensive player not only just knocked the kid down, but then shoves him.

The rule supports a double foul here I personally would go with one of the 2 options I provided.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Cadet

Is it a dead ball foul if the whistle hasn't blown yet?

Yes, the whistle isn't what makes the ball dead. The foul or violation does that. This is noted as one of the twenty rules fundamentals in the NFHS rules book.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Cadet

Is it a dead ball foul if the whistle hasn't blown yet?

There are plenty of dead balls throughout a game without a whistle at all. In some games, it may be the majority of dead balls.

Most of the rest occur demonstrably before any whistle that acknowledges them (fouls, violations, held balls).

Only a select few times does the whistle actually make the ball dead. Mainly inadvertent whistles.