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[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Rich

As long as officials aren't avoiding TCB because of their knowledge of the fine that will result, I have no problem with the process.

My experience in other states that fine coaches is that associations and officials took more crap because they were aware of the fine and didn't want to appear heavy handed.

(If there's a fine for a single technical foul, that's ludicrous, IMO.)

The fine is for getting ejected.

And I agree with you on TCB. I've encountered more than one official who won't toss coaches because of the fine, but overall I think the fine and suspension do a pretty decent job of curtailing the behavior.

OT: One coach a couple weeks ago got whacked in the first quarter. Last couple minutes of the game he went apes*it and got tossed, charging after the ejecting official. He got suspended for the rest of the season by the district and ended up resigning.

[BigT]

Originally Posted by SC Official

The fine is for getting ejected.

And I agree with you on TCB. I've encountered more than one official who won't toss coaches because of the fine, but overall I think the fine and suspension do a pretty decent job of curtailing the behavior.

OT: One coach a couple weeks ago got whacked in the first quarter. Last couple minutes of the game he went apes*it and got tossed, charging after the ejecting official. He got suspended for the rest of the season by the district and ended up resigning.

Wow...

[Rich]

I've ejected 2 coaches in 30 years. One was in year 4 or 5 and one was in year 9 or 10. It's been that long. One JV head coach who followed me to the locker room at HALFTIME (I told him to stay in the locker room) and one Christian (non-affiliated) HS head coach.

Probably one we should've run about 10 years ago here, but he was the one I let get away (with it).

Stuff like that just shouldn't happen much in HS hoops.

[BigT]

Originally Posted by Rich

I've ejected 2 coaches in 30 years. One was in year 4 or 5 and one was in year 9 or 10. It's been that long. One JV head coach who followed me to the locker room at HALFTIME (I told him to stay in the locker room) and one Christian (non-affiliated) HS head coach.

Probably one we should've run about 10 years ago here, but he was the one I let get away (with it).

Stuff like that just shouldn't happen much in HS hoops.

Rich what was said/done with these to push you to ejection?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BigT

Rich what was said/done with these to push you to ejection?

The varsity one was a second technical foul. The first came on the first foul of the game where my partner called a block and the coach came up off his seat onto the court and started screaming at him and quickly picked up a technical foul. I sent him packing when he started in on me in the second quarter and persisted even though I warned him and probably warned him again.

The JV one -- he got a technical foul in the first half and when we were walking to the locker room he "jumped" us and started telling us how horrible we were. I gave him one chance to walk away, then I told him he was ejected. Long time ago now and I probably was a lot worse than I am now, but still...

[BigT]

Originally Posted by Rich

The varsity one was a second technical foul. The first came on the first foul of the game where my partner called a block and the coach came up off his seat onto the court and started screaming at him and quickly picked up a technical foul. I sent him packing when he started in on me in the second quarter and persisted even though I warned him and probably warned him again.

The JV one -- he got a technical foul in the first half and when we were walking to the locker room he "jumped" us and started telling us how horrible we were. I gave him one chance to walk away, then I told him he was ejected. Long time ago now and I probably was a lot worse than I am now, but still...

Thanks for sharing

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by SC Official

OT: One coach a couple weeks ago got whacked in the first quarter. Last couple minutes of the game he went apes*it and got tossed, charging after the ejecting official. He got suspended for the rest of the season by the district and ended up resigning.

Good luck collecting the $300 fine.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Good luck collecting the $300 fine.

In VA, the school gets a $500 fine when a coach gets ejected. Many schools make the coach pay it.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Good luck collecting the $300 fine.

Not really sure what you mean by this. The SCHSL has its flaws, but fine collection is not one of them. Any coach or AD with half a brain is well aware of this penalty.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Not really sure what you mean by this. The SCHSL has its flaws, but fine collection is not one of them. Any coach or AD with half a brain is well aware of this penalty.

I was talking about the guy who got suspended and then resigned. Did they really maintain jurisdiction over him after he left so that they could collect?


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[SC Official]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

I was talking about the guy who got suspended and then resigned. Did they really maintain jurisdiction over him after he left so that they could collect?


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He's still a teacher at the school, so either he's paying it or the school is. But no one's getting off the hook from the SCHSL.