Saddest T I ever gave

[NCAAREF]

Originally Posted by gunz722

I had a game last year and was telling the story to another official and she said she would have done it differently. It was a girls varsity game with 2 below average teams.

Team A was home and had a full bench available. Team B only had 6 players. Well it ends up being a real war of attrition it is a 1 point game with 30 seconds to go and Team A trailing calls for a timeout. Team B at this time only has 5 girls due to an injury.

The 2nd horn blows and team B comes out onto the court and sets up in a 2-3 zone. I am inbounding the ball at the mid court line. I become team A several times to come onto the floor and after 10-15 seconds of extended time I blow my whistle place the ball on the floor and start my count.

Team A still isn't rushing onto the floor. A gird from team B starts sprinting over to the ball on the ground and picks the ball up (I couldn't believe she was doing this and wanted to tell her not to, but I didn't want to effect a close game. I called a technical foul on the girl and it was her 5th foul so they were playing a girl short.

Team A makes both free throws and wins by a point as Team B doesn't even foul to extend the game.

I was telling this story to another official and she said she would have just called a delay of game warning for going over the line. I never thought I might be wrong in the technical call because she touched the ball over the out of bounds line, but technically to get there she would have put a body part over the line 1st. I am just playing devils advocate with myself I guess, but wanted to see what you guys thought.


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In your comments you stated " (I couldn't believe she was doing this and wanted to tell her not to, but I didn't want to effect a close game." So putting the ball down and starting your count wasn't affecting the game? The potential is there as you discovered by Team B touching the ball or a 5 second violation on team A to do exactly that...effect the game. I agree that a Delay of Game Warning would have been the way to go.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by NCAAREF

In your comments you stated " (I couldn't believe she was doing this and wanted to tell her not to, but I didn't want to effect a close game." So putting the ball down and starting your count wasn't affecting the game? The potential is there as you discovered by Team B touching the ball or a 5 second violation on team A to do exactly that...effect the game. I agree that a Delay of Game Warning would have been the way to go.

Putting the ball down is the prescribed method of resuming play here. Coaching the defense is not.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

Putting the ball down is the prescribed method of resuming play here. Coaching the defense is not.

Well, there are some of those that think getting them the hell out of the huddle is a better way to go.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

Well, there are some of those that think getting them the hell out of the huddle is a better way to go.

Area-specific, and it works for me 99% of the time. It works around here because, for the most part, officials aren't afraid to put it down. I've got no problem with either approach. At some point, you have to stop cajoling and TCOB.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

Area-specific, and it works for me 99% of the time. It works around here because, for the most part, officials aren't afraid to put it down. I've got no problem with either approach. At some point, you have to stop cajoling and TCOB.

30 seconds left, tight game -- not when I want to pull out the ROP procedure for the first time.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

30 seconds left, tight game -- not when I want to pull out the ROP procedure for the first time.

Good point, but I think we all have a point where we feel we had to. Is it 15 seconds? 60 seconds? That answer might change based on several factors.

[SNIPERBBB]

That's why we stress the non-administrating official needs to hang near the benches until the second team comes out. That official needs to be encouraging the team to come out. At some point though, we are putting the ball in play if they resist.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

That's why we stress the non-administrating official needs to hang near the benches until the second team comes out. That official needs to be encouraging the team to come out. At some point though, we are putting the ball in play if they resist.

I like doing this. If they haven't broken on the 2nd horn, I hit my whistle pretty hard while about 1 foot outside their huddle, then sprint to my position for the inbound. Most teams get that message pretty clear, but if that whistle does not immediately get them breaking the huddle, I'm pointing at my partner with the ball and saying, "Let's go!"

[Adam]

As soon as the first horn goes, we're talking to them here. It works the vast majority of the time. I don't put it down often, about once every two or three seasons, but it's very effective.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

As soon as the first horn goes, we're talking to them here. It works the vast majority of the time. I don't put it down often, about once every two or three seasons, but it's very effective.

I put it down in Christmas tourney final last month. Team ended up calling a time out.

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