Saddest T I ever gave

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

Putting the ball down is the prescribed method of resuming play here. Coaching the defense is not.

Well, there are some of those that think getting them the hell out of the huddle is a better way to go.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

Well, there are some of those that think getting them the hell out of the huddle is a better way to go.

Area-specific, and it works for me 99% of the time. It works around here because, for the most part, officials aren't afraid to put it down. I've got no problem with either approach. At some point, you have to stop cajoling and TCOB.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

Area-specific, and it works for me 99% of the time. It works around here because, for the most part, officials aren't afraid to put it down. I've got no problem with either approach. At some point, you have to stop cajoling and TCOB.

30 seconds left, tight game -- not when I want to pull out the ROP procedure for the first time.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

30 seconds left, tight game -- not when I want to pull out the ROP procedure for the first time.

Good point, but I think we all have a point where we feel we had to. Is it 15 seconds? 60 seconds? That answer might change based on several factors.

[SNIPERBBB]

That's why we stress the non-administrating official needs to hang near the benches until the second team comes out. That official needs to be encouraging the team to come out. At some point though, we are putting the ball in play if they resist.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

That's why we stress the non-administrating official needs to hang near the benches until the second team comes out. That official needs to be encouraging the team to come out. At some point though, we are putting the ball in play if they resist.

I like doing this. If they haven't broken on the 2nd horn, I hit my whistle pretty hard while about 1 foot outside their huddle, then sprint to my position for the inbound. Most teams get that message pretty clear, but if that whistle does not immediately get them breaking the huddle, I'm pointing at my partner with the ball and saying, "Let's go!"

[Adam]

As soon as the first horn goes, we're talking to them here. It works the vast majority of the time. I don't put it down often, about once every two or three seasons, but it's very effective.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Adam

As soon as the first horn goes, we're talking to them here. It works the vast majority of the time. I don't put it down often, about once every two or three seasons, but it's very effective.

I put it down in Christmas tourney final last month. Team ended up calling a time out.

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[just another ref]

The first horn announcement, in my opinion, is among the stupidest things we do. If they didn't hear/ignored the horn itself, how likely are they to hear/respond to the call and whistle from the official? I'm not gonna stick my head in the huddle and beg. We should put the ball on the floor more often than we do.

[BlueDevilRef]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The first horn announcement, in my opinion, is among the stupidest things we do. If they didn't hear/ignored the horn itself, how likely are they to hear/respond to the call and whistle from the official? I'm not gonna stick my head in the huddle and beg. We should put the ball on the floor more often than we do.

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000 etc etc.

I just don't want to be the only guy dying on that sword. If we are supposed to break up soon after first horn and play ball on 2nd, we should enforce it. I just find I'm alone in that fight so I find myself saying let's go let's go a lot

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The first horn announcement, in my opinion, is among the stupidest things we do. If they didn't hear/ignored the horn itself, how likely are they to hear/respond to the call and whistle from the official? I'm not gonna stick my head in the huddle and beg. We should put the ball on the floor more often than we do.

I'd agree with you if it weren't for the absolute success of the process here. It wasn't my idea, and I don't disagree that it shouldn't be necessary, but getting teams out of a huddle is rarely an issue now. And when it is, there's never any complaining when the ball gets put down. They knew it was coming, and usually I hear a fan behind me, "He's counting!"

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I put it down in Christmas tourney final last month. Team ended up calling a time out.

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Did someone go pick up the ball and then call timeout, or was the ball sitting on the floor?

[UNIgiantslayers]

I know this may not help a lot, but during the captain/coaches meeting, I tell the kids our state association is focused on sportsmanship, helping each other up, etc. Then I get them out of there. I tell the coaches to stay. We're required to ask coaches if all players are legally equipped, and then I make it a point to tell them first horn ENDS the timeout, we're ready to play on the second horn so make sure they're out there. My hope is that if that's the only thing that I say, it sticks with them. Not sure how much it helps, or if at all (probably not), but I've not had a DOG for coming out of a timeout yet. I've also not been doing this as long as many of you, so I'm sure that plays a huge factor in that as well.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Did someone go pick up the ball and then call timeout, or was the ball sitting on the floor?

Sitting on floor. Which means the ball was at their disposal.

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