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Saddest T I ever gave
I had a game last year and was telling the story to another official and she said she would have done it differently. It was a girls varsity game with 2 below average teams.
Team A was home and had a full bench available. Team B only had 6 players. Well it ends up being a real war of attrition it is a 1 point game with 30 seconds to go and Team A trailing calls for a timeout. Team B at this time only has 5 girls due to an injury. The 2nd horn blows and team B comes out onto the court and sets up in a 2-3 zone. I am inbounding the ball at the mid court line. I become team A several times to come onto the floor and after 10-15 seconds of extended time I blow my whistle place the ball on the floor and start my count. Team A still isn't rushing onto the floor. A gird from team B starts sprinting over to the ball on the ground and picks the ball up (I couldn't believe she was doing this and wanted to tell her not to, but I didn't want to effect a close game. I called a technical foul on the girl and it was her 5th foul so they were playing a girl short. Team A makes both free throws and wins by a point as Team B doesn't even foul to extend the game. I was telling this story to another official and she said she would have just called a delay of game warning for going over the line. I never thought I might be wrong in the technical call because she touched the ball over the out of bounds line, but technically to get there she would have put a body part over the line 1st. I am just playing devils advocate with myself I guess, but wanted to see what you guys thought. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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The NFHS has indicated that while what you say about crossing the line first is true, a single motion in crossing the line and touching the ball is treated as touching the ball.
That said, it is written with the context of being in the throwers hands. In reading the rule, it seems a delay warning might be in order: Rule 9-2 Penalties: Quote:
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7.5.1 SITUATION B:
Team A does not break the huddle after the second horn for a 60-second time-out. The official puts the ball down at the designated spot and begins the five-second count. The administering official is between four and five on the count when Team B reaches over the boundary and grabs the ball. RULING: Delay-of-game warning on Team B for reaching across the plane. No Team A member ever possessed the ball for the throw-in; therefore, a technical foul would not be assessed. (9-2 Penalty 3) |
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Area-specific, and it works for me 99% of the time. It works around here because, for the most part, officials aren't afraid to put it down. I've got no problem with either approach. At some point, you have to stop cajoling and TCOB.
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We gave them plenty of time to come out. Close to 20 seconds so the coach was getting an advantage by not coming on to the court after the minute. In retrospect if something similar happens again I now know that this is a delay of game warning not a T if the ball is not being held. Lesson learned.
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That's why we stress the non-administrating official needs to hang near the benches until the second team comes out. That official needs to be encouraging the team to come out. At some point though, we are putting the ball in play if they resist.
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No my partner was all over them trying to get them out on the court. I am quite loud in a small gym. Plenty of warnings were given. I hate being the jerk official and try to give teams every benefit of the doubt within the rules.
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But I've done that only once in the last 3 years, so it would have to be really bad for me to do that. I'm also pretty slow in starting the timeout clock to avoid these kind of things, too, so we just don't have these problems. Could be an area thing. |
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