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Old Wed Jan 11, 2017, 02:44pm
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For the record, I am not an official. I do coach though. But I was wrong.
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Old Wed Jan 11, 2017, 03:11pm
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For the record, I am not an official. I do coach though. But I was wrong.
Not as wrong as the officials on that game.

Simply team technical fouls, not on the coach.
Also, once the first one was called, the 2nd player an go in without penalty.

This would be quickly discovered in my state, as all technical fouls on players and coaches are reported to the state. I can just imagine the response I'd get for that report.
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Old Wed Jan 11, 2017, 03:27pm
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Not as wrong as the officials on that game.

Simply team technical fouls, not on the coach.
Also, once the first one was called, the 2nd player an go in without penalty.

This would be quickly discovered in my state, as all technical fouls on players and coaches are reported to the state. I can just imagine the response I'd get for that report.
Thanks for the explanation. So the 2nd player can go in without penalty even though he didn't check in at the same time as the first violation. Just want to make sure in case I'm ever in this predicament as a coach.

I talked with the coach afterwards, he said that he didn't put all of his freshman in the book (they had played a game before the JV game) because he didn't think they would need to play. But when the game got lopsided, he wanted to keep the game competitive. The last kid he wanted to get in the game was kind of the 'Rudy' of the team, and didn't get in the game. Coach was told by the ref that he would be tossed from the game if he put him in. Coach said he didn't want to have go through all the state protocol (taking a course on modeling behavior) to be reinstated after being thrown from the game or he would have put him in the game.
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Thanks for the explanation. So the 2nd player can go in without penalty even though he didn't check in at the same time as the first violation. Just want to make sure in case I'm ever in this predicament as a coach.

I talked with the coach afterwards, he said that he didn't put all of his freshman in the book (they had played a game before the JV game) because he didn't think they would need to play. But when the game got lopsided, he wanted to keep the game competitive. The last kid he wanted to get in the game was kind of the 'Rudy' of the team, and didn't get in the game. Coach was told by the ref that he would be tossed from the game if he put him in. Coach said he didn't want to have go through all the state protocol (taking a course on modeling behavior) to be reinstated after being thrown from the game or he would have put him in the game.
Once the technical has been called for making changes to the book, the coach can make further changes without penalty. It's a single technical foul for all the changes.

That doesn't mean that knowing this will help you in the future. If an official doesn't already know it, he's highly unlikely to believe you.
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This is why I tell coaches to list their entire school on the roster if they have to. Its never a penalty to have more players listed than what you have on the bench...as long as you dont have a league rule that mandates participation minimums.
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Old Wed Jan 11, 2017, 04:42pm
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Had this same exact situation in my game last night. Two players checked in not in the book. We gave the admin T. The coach pulled the kids. I informed him that those kids are now eligible to play since the T was assessed, he promptly put them back in the game.
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Had this same exact situation in my game last night. Two players checked in not in the book. We gave the admin T. The coach pulled the kids. I informed him that those kids are now eligible to play since the T was assessed, he promptly put them back in the game.
Did you make him wait til the clock ran?
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Had this same exact situation in my game last night. Two players checked in not in the book. We gave the admin T. The coach pulled the kids. I informed him that those kids are now eligible to play since the T was assessed, he promptly put them back in the game.
Did you inform him he doesn't need to get a T if they don't actually enter the game?
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Old Thu Jan 12, 2017, 12:03pm
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They had already entered the game.
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Old Thu Jan 12, 2017, 08:41am
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This is why I tell coaches to list their entire school on the roster if they have to.
If I was a coach, I'd take the entire student body roster and staple it to the scoresheet as my roster.
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If I was a coach, I'd take the entire student body roster and staple it to the scoresheet as my roster.
I know you're being sarcastic, but that wouldn't work either unless they had a unique jersey/number for each student. And that would only be technically possible at a really small school. They'd still be left with changing the number in the book to match the player.
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I know you're being sarcastic, but that wouldn't work either unless they had a unique jersey/number for each student. And that would only be technically possible at a really small school. They'd still be left with changing the number in the book to match the player.
The following numbers are legal: 0, 1, 2,
3, 4, 5, 00, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 30, 31, 32, 33,
34, 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55. A team member list
shall not have both numbers 0 and 00.
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