Part 2 test

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Team B is assessed a T. Coach A doesn't (after being asked) name a shooter.

Do you asses Coach A with a direct T? Ask the Captain? Assess Captain A with a T? Assess a Team T? Other? Reference?

(I'd vote for option A, but I don't know if there's something specific I'm missing)

It's not following a timeout and its not a throw in so resumption of play procedure isnt used. Direct T to coach. I dont see this happening. (Call a T on B and A refuses to give me a shooter.)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

You need to get a current rule book. 8-1-2 says it is a "team technical."
That is why...it is a team technical. You have not quoted the current 8-1-2. Yours is an older version.

Pick a prize from the top shelf.

Thanks for your due diligence. I was too lazy to get my current book (printed on dead trees) in my bag in another room. My digital version, on my computer, is a few years old.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

(Call a T on B and A refuses to give me a shooter.)

Will never happen. Coaches will never act like a..holes. Never, ever.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Pick a prize from the top shelf.

Thanks for your due diligence. I was too lazy to get my current book (printed on dead trees) in my bag in another room. My digital version, on my computer, is a few years old.

You can buy another one for $6 and have it on your phone...unless your phone is rotary dialed...

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

You can buy another one for $6 and have it on your phone...unless your phone is rotary dialed...

Close, it's a flip phone.

I don't get a signal at work (basement, lots of electronics), and I get a poor signal at home, (mountain between me and the cell tower, I only get a weak signal by my second floor bedroom window). I just use my flip phone in the car on my daily commute.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Close, it's a flip phone.

I just use my flip phone in the car on my daily commute.

That is illegal in Connecticut....without a hands free device. Do they make hands free devices for your dinosaur phone??

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

... unless your phone is rotary dialed...

About fifteen years ago, before I retired from teaching, I was supervising a group of student volunteers at a bloodmobile at the local Moose Lodge. One student asked to use the phone, that was located in another room. The student came back stating that he didn't know how to use the phone. It was a rotary phone.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

That is illegal in Connecticut....

Correct. Hands free blue tooth speaker on my sun visor.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigCat

It's not following a timeout and its not a throw in so resumption of play procedure isnt used. Direct T to coach. I dont see this happening. (Call a T on B and A refuses to give me a shooter.)

What if after the T there is a TO? Does that change your answer? (I can see A staying n the huddle, perhaps, on this one).

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

What if after the T there is a TO? Does that change your answer? (I can see A staying n the huddle, perhaps, on this one).

Yes, resumption of play is used after TO.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

4-19-3.

Yes, I know it is defined. But, that is the end of it. None of the sub-parts of that rule apply during a dead ball. They either explicitly mention live ball or are in relation to a play (which also doesn't happen during a dead ball). It lists no examples of acts that occur during a dead ball. We all take it to be excessive contact during a dead ball, but why does it explicitly mention live ball if that is the case?

I think the implication in the rules is that you call a simple technical foul when contact occurs that would have been an intentional foul during a live ball. There is never a case where you need to call an intentional technical as it means absolutely nothing.

That explanation fits the question.

[Rich]

It's a poor question. We refer to it as an intentional technical, the definitions do as well.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Yes, I know it is defined. But, that is the end of it. None of the sub-parts of that rule apply during a dead ball. They either explicitly mention live ball or are in relation to a play (which also doesn't happen during a dead ball). It lists no examples of acts that occur during a dead ball. We all take it to be excessive contact during a dead ball, but why does it explicitly mention live ball if that is the case?

I think the implication in the rules is that you call a simple technical foul when contact occurs that would have been an intentional foul during a live ball. There is never a case where you need to call an intentional technical as it means absolutely nothing.

That explanation fits the question.

Your logic, while sound, doesn't make this a better question. We constantly tell newer officials not to read too much into the questions on the test. Hell, that's normally a good test taking strategy in any situation (I just took a state licensing test and that was the biggest advice I was given during the preparation for the test).

This question, however, demands that you read a lot into it that's not there. I'd be curious to see which answer the NFHS deems correct.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Adam

Your logic, while sound, doesn't make this a better question. We constantly tell newer officials not to read too much into the questions on the test. Hell, that's normally a good test taking strategy in any situation (I just took a state licensing test and that was the biggest advice I was given during the preparation for the test).

This question, however, demands that you read a lot into it that's not there. I'd be curious to see which answer the NFHS deems correct.

The answer follows Cameron's logic, however it doesn't make the question any better.