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Mo-Money Sat Dec 17, 2016 06:04am

Part 2 test
 
I can not find the answer to this question. Is this just a bad question with no correct answer? Please help.

Following a time-out, if free throw, A1, is not in the free-throw semicircle for the second time, when the administering official is ready:

a. A warning is given to A1.
b. A1 will not be allowed to shoot the free throw.
c. A team technical foul for delay is charged to A.
d. Team A1's coach will lose coaching-box privileges.

Nevadaref Sat Dec 17, 2016 06:18am

The correct answer is there. Rule reference 4-38.

BillyMac Sat Dec 17, 2016 07:13am

Player Technical Or Team Technical
 
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Originally Posted by Mo-Money (Post 995108)
Following a time-out, if free throw, A1, is not in the free-throw semicircle for the second time, when the administering official is ready:
a. A warning is given to A1.
b. A1 will not be allowed to shoot the free throw.
c. A team technical foul for delay is charged to A.
d. Team A1's coach will lose coaching-box privileges.

Assuming that the Resumption of Play procedure has already been used, is it a team technical or a player technical?

bob jenkins Sat Dec 17, 2016 08:19am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 995110)
Assuming that the Resumption of Play procedure has already been used, is it a team technical or a player technical?

10-1-5 (in an old book)

Rich Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:55am

Nothing to do with this question....but Part 2 is the worst written exam I've taken in 30 years of officiating.

I know some states use it as closed book, so I won't post the 6-7 bad questions asked, including the one where all answers were incorrect.

DrPete Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:01pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 995111)
10-1-5 (in an old book)

Looks like this is addressed in rule 10-4-5 in the current 2016-2017 rule book, under Player Technicals.

BillyMac Sat Dec 17, 2016 02:38pm

My Guess, Player Technical ..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 995111)
10-1-5

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrPete (Post 995125)
10-4-5 ... Player Technicals.

So I ask again, is it a player technical, or a team technical?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo-Money (Post 995108)
Following a time-out, if free throw, A1, is not in the free-throw semicircle for the second time, when the administering official is ready ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 995110)
Assuming that the Resumption of Play procedure has already been used (once) ...


BillyMac Sat Dec 17, 2016 02:46pm

Player Technical Foul ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 995127)
So I ask again, is it a player technical, or a team technical?

This (below) is not exactly the same, but points to a player technical foul.

8.1.1 SITUATION B: B1 fouls A1 during an unsuccessful try for goal. The calling
official has properly reported the foul and is in position for the free throws.
The administering official has given all instructions and signals. Team B is properly
occupying the required spaces, but three teammates of A1 are huddling
inside the lane. RULING: Team A is warned for delay, the scorer records it and it
is reported to the head coach. If Team A commits any delay thereafter in the
game, a team technical foul shall be charged. COMMENT: Since this situation is
not a throw-in or following a time-out or intermission, the resumption-of-play
procedure shall not be used. If the free thrower is not in the semicircle when the
administering official is ready, a technical foul is charged to the free thrower.
If
the free thrower is in the semicircle, but does not accept the ball, it shall be placed
on the floor and the count started.

Mo-Money Sat Dec 17, 2016 07:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 995128)
This (below) is not exactly the same, but points to a player technical foul.

8.1.1 SITUATION B: B1 fouls A1 during an unsuccessful try for goal. The calling
official has properly reported the foul and is in position for the free throws.
The administering official has given all instructions and signals. Team B is properly
occupying the required spaces, but three teammates of A1 are huddling
inside the lane. RULING: Team A is warned for delay, the scorer records it and it
is reported to the head coach. If Team A commits any delay thereafter in the
game, a team technical foul shall be charged. COMMENT: Since this situation is
not a throw-in or following a time-out or intermission, the resumption-of-play
procedure shall not be used. If the free thrower is not in the semicircle when the
administering official is ready, a technical foul is charged to the free thrower.
If
the free thrower is in the semicircle, but does not accept the ball, it shall be placed
on the floor and the count started.



So what you're saying according to the rule is that it's a technical foul on player A1. But there is no option for that answer on the test just a technical on team A only.

BigCat Sat Dec 17, 2016 07:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo-Money (Post 995108)
I can not find the answer to this question. Is this just a bad question with no correct answer? Please help.

Following a time-out, if free throw, A1, is not in the free-throw semicircle for the second time, when the administering official is ready:

a. A warning is given to A1.
b. A1 will not be allowed to shoot the free throw.
c. A team technical foul for delay is charged to A.
d. Team A1's coach will lose coaching-box privileges.

I guess this was a two shot FT. Following TO he isn't in circle. Resumption play. Place ball on floor count 10. Violation. Get ready for second FT. He is still not there after that violation.8-1-2. Offending team continues to delay-team Technical. If I'm basing the T on the resumption of play procedure, which, we are if he is given two chances, it is a team technical. (Even though A1 is the same person screwing it up. The answer is C

AremRed Sat Dec 17, 2016 08:18pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 995124)
Nothing to do with this question....but Part 2 is the worst written exam I've taken in 30 years of officiating.

I know some states use it as closed book, so I won't post the 6-7 bad questions asked, including the one where all answers were incorrect.

You mean the "officials jurisdiction begins when..." question?

Rich Sat Dec 17, 2016 08:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 995145)
You mean the "officials jurisdiction begins when..." question?

No, this one:

A substitute free throw is awarded if there are simultaneous violations by opponents:

A. And the try is successful.
B. And the try is unsuccessful.

These are the only two choices.

Rich Sat Dec 17, 2016 08:28pm

How about this one?

Which is a foul that may be either personal or technical?
A. Common
B. Flagrant
C. Intentional
D. Player-control

So there are 2 correct answers for this one. No choices that allow me to specify more than one, though.

ODog Sat Dec 17, 2016 08:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 995124)
Part 2 is the worst written exam I've taken in 30 years of officiating.

I know some states use it as closed book ...

I live in an IAABO state, so our exam format is nothing like this. What is this exactly ... the NFHS exam?

Rich Sat Dec 17, 2016 08:46pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ODog (Post 995148)
I live in an IAABO state, so our exam format is nothing like this. What is this exactly ... the NFHS exam?

These are two actual questions off this year's NFHS Part 2 exam, both of which have no one correct answer.

There are other horrible questions, as well.


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