Disconcerting the FT shooter

[deecee]

Originally Posted by billyu2

Would you repeat that question?:

V4 is shooting 2nd FT at the end of a game.

Entire home team (1) stands and (2) shouts (3) just before V4 goes into her shooting motion, (4) and, as she shoots.

Ruling:

a. Tell them to knock it off before making the call.
b. Ignore it.
c. Calling something would be looking for trouble.
d. Do not call it the first time.
e. Advise the coach of the rule.
f. Looking for opportunities to call T’s will open a can of worms.
g. A replacement FT is all you need.
h. There doesn’t need to be a T on the players for standing.
i. Officials looking for things like this to call never get selected to go to the
state tournament.
j. Assess a team technical to Home Team and disconcertion violation if
needed.

If the FT was critical to this team then I'm calling a violation. If it isn't I'm going to let the bench know the next time it will be a violation.

Most likely I'm sitting them before the FT is even shot. As an ex player if this throws your FT shot off you're not concentrating and/or a good FT shooter in the first place.

In no way am I dropping this T as a first recourse. Coaches, even some partners (although they won't tell me to my face), already ding me enough for being a "tighter" official on enforcing the rules and I know that costs me some games. But it's part of our rating process. Coaches and officials determine our ratings.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by deecee

If the FT was critical to this team then I'm calling a violation. If it isn't I'm going to let the bench know the next time it will be a violation.

Most likely I'm sitting them before the FT is even shot. As an ex player if this throws your FT shot off you're not concentrating and/or a good FT shooter in the first place.

In no way am I dropping this T as a first recourse. Coaches, even some partners (although they won't tell me to my face), already ding me enough for being a "tighter" official on enforcing the rules and I know that costs me some games. But it's part of our rating process. Coaches and officials determine our ratings.

Agree.

[billyu2]

Originally Posted by deecee

If the FT was critical to this team then I'm calling a violation. If it isn't I'm going to let the bench know the next time it will be a violation.

Most likely I'm sitting them before the FT is even shot. As an ex player if this throws your FT shot off you're not concentrating and/or a good FT shooter in the first place.

In no way am I dropping this T as a first recourse. Coaches, even some partners (although they won't tell me to my face), already ding me enough for being a "tighter" official on enforcing the rules and I know that costs me some games. But it's part of our rating process. Coaches and officials determine our ratings.

What is your definition of when the FT begins? The rule book says when ball is at disposal. Your answer is irrelevant because before the ball was at V4's disposal the opponents weren't standing and shouting. If you mean after the ball was at V4's disposal but just before V4 starts the act of shooting (which is when the home bench started their antics), are you saying you would stop play, have V4 return the ball to the Lead while you run back into the visitors back court to tell the home team bench to sit down and to remind them if it happens again the rule will be enforced? All this during an apparently critical 2nd free throw? (why would home bench be doing this if it weren't?) If I am the visitors head coach I would be furious for multiple reasons. Worms, anyone? A fresh can has just been opened.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by billyu2

What is your definition of when the FT begins? The rule book says when ball is at disposal. Your answer is irrelevant because before the ball was at V4's disposal the opponents weren't standing and shouting. If you mean after the ball was at V4's disposal but just before V4 starts the act of shooting (which is when the home bench started their antics), are you saying you would stop play, have V4 return the ball to the Lead while you run back into the visitors back court to tell the home team bench to sit down and to remind them if it happens again the rule will be enforced? All this during an apparently critical 2nd free throw? (why would home bench be doing this if it weren't?) If I am the visitors head coach I would be furious for multiple reasons. Worms, anyone? A fresh can has just been opened.

If the kids are just standing and the ball is at the disposal of the FT shooter I'm not stopping play to have them sit. If they then disconcert see my above comment. Sometimes you just have to officiate/manage the situation as it happens and there is no guide that covers all the what ifs. IMO its this that differentiates the good officials from the great ones. The ones that constantly get those amazing games because they have proven they can handle complex situations and can think on their feet.