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Old Tue Dec 06, 2016, 02:42pm
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"You can do that 4 more times, Johnny."
Sometimes sarcasm has to be met with sarcasm.

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Old Tue Dec 06, 2016, 02:47pm
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This is one of the situations that I'm trying to improve myself on this year. In years past, I would have a very low tolerance for this and would probably whack after telling him to stop. Even for one comment after that like "I'm talking to my player," I'd whack. I'm really trying to be more approachable this year, in an effort to get to the state tourney. Reading how you more experienced and better officials would handle it is why I really like coming onto this forum.
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Old Tue Dec 06, 2016, 02:53pm
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This is one of the situations that I'm trying to improve myself on this year. In years past, I would have a very low tolerance for this and would probably whack after telling him to stop. Even for one comment after that like "I'm talking to my player," I'd whack. I'm really trying to be more approachable this year, in an effort to get to the state tourney. Reading how you more experienced and better officials would handle it is why I really like coming onto this forum.
A serious answer (which carries the risk of "breaking into jail"): Find a time to get next to the coach and say, "If you have a reasonable question about a call, I'll be glad to answer it. But, I can't have you making comments like that."

If he says, "I was talking to my player," then respond, "If you are saying it so I can hear it, you are also talking to me."
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Old Tue Dec 06, 2016, 03:11pm
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This is one of the situations that I'm trying to improve myself on this year. In years past, I would have a very low tolerance for this and would probably whack after telling him to stop. Even for one comment after that like "I'm talking to my player," I'd whack. I'm really trying to be more approachable this year, in an effort to get to the state tourney. Reading how you more experienced and better officials would handle it is why I really like coming onto this forum.
Being approachable is subjective. And what people think is approachable is "taking all their s##t no matter what." That is not being approachable. Being approachable should be to talk to them when they have legitimate questions or comments in your direction. And giving them calm and reasonable answers. That does not mean you have to take whatever they give you or not be aware of whatever they are giving you is unsporting. I have directly confronted coaches on their BS only to have them apologize later. We cannot take this job personally, but we do not have to put up with their personal BS either.

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Old Tue Dec 06, 2016, 03:18pm
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Being approachable is subjective. And what people think is approachable is "taking all their s##t no matter what." That is not being approachable. Being approachable should be to talk to them when they have legitimate questions or comments in your direction. And giving them calm and reasonable answers. That does not mean you have to take whatever they give you or not be aware of whatever they are giving you is unsporting. I have directly confronted coaches on their BS only to have them apologize later. We cannot take this job personally, but we do not have to put up with their personal BS either.

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Exactly. Approachability is a two-way street, and the hypothetical coach in the OP is demonstrating he has no desire to have an actual conversation about anything. He thinks he's being clever, when all it's doing is hurting his players.

1. He's teaching them that the refs are just doing it wrong but that somehow magically we're going to adjust to the players. As if we're somehow averse to giving johnny his 5th foul.

2. When a coach acts like this, he shows me he doesn't want to work with me on sportsmanship issues. If that's the case, when johnny starts questioning my calls I'm more likely to just go straight to the T and be done with it. When his AC starts chirping, I'm more likely to go straight to the T and be done with it since the coach's actions tell me it's not worth my effort to work with him.
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Old Tue Dec 06, 2016, 03:18pm
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Great point! Perhaps the official should say directly to the assistant right next to the head coach, "The guy that did this last week got whacked before the quarter was even over."
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Old Tue Dec 06, 2016, 04:03pm
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Great point! Perhaps the official should say directly to the assistant right next to the head coach, "The guy that did this last week got whacked before the quarter was even over."
Now that's funny.
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Old Tue Dec 06, 2016, 04:22pm
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Great point! Perhaps the official should say directly to the assistant right next to the head coach, "The guy that did this last week got whacked before the quarter was even over."
And when the HC objects, you turn to him and tell him "I wasn't talking to you."
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Old Tue Dec 06, 2016, 04:31pm
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And when the HC objects, you turn to him and tell him "I wasn't talking to you."


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