Flagrant foul or not

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by BigCat

If you read the POE, the written words require that any moving elbow is intentional. Contact with an elbow "in movement" is intentional foul, it says. If the elbows move in a speed faster than the body rotates it is deemed "excessive" and intentional OR flagrant is possible.

If the elbow is stationary it is either incidental or common foul. Common foul example is a screening player setting it with hands at chest and elbows out beyond shoulders. Illegal position. Defender runs by and hits elbow with head. Elbow is stationary so common foul.

The way the POE is written if the elbow is moving in high school it is intentional. Even if the elbow is simply moving with the rest of the body at normal speed.

That is what the POE says and requires. I dont like it. Id like to be able to call a common foul in certain circumstances. My biggest gripe though is that all this, whatever they want, isnt in the rule book.

The POE was not written that way. A moving elbow is one moving faster than the torso, IE swinging elbows.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

A moving elbow is one moving faster than the torso, IE swinging elbows.

Are you sure?

"An elbow in movement but not excessive should be an intentional foul."

[SNIPERBBB]

All the stuff that came out in regarding that poe made it clear.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

The POE was not written that way. A moving elbow is one moving faster than the torso, IE swinging elbows.

Plug in elbows 2012 National Fedration point of emphasis into your browser and you will see that it is written that way. A moving elbow....is moving. An elbow moving faster than the torso is also moving....excessively.