How much contact is usually allowed in officiated game?

[potato]

Asking a realistic question in realistic situations.

Basketball is a contact sports, and while it's easy to spot illegal contacts on players with the ball, it's quite difficult to spot illegal off-ball contacts unless it's too obvious.

So my question is in an officiated game, how much illegal contact is usually allowed, for example off ball plays, typically for rebounds because that is where most of the dirty work happens.

The Rule clearly states you cannot displace, restrict, hand/body check opponents but truth is these things happen quite often and many times go uncalled until things get too hot. So how much is too much?

We don't see this too often in the NBA because they have higher field goal % & players are less motivated to hustle & box out hard for rebounds, but in semi-pro or amateur leagues, hustling is much more intense & frequent, so does illegal contacts, and also fist fights.

Potato is back!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Potato is back!

I think it was Rut's spin move thread that summoned him.

[SNIPERBBB]

Back in the 90's post play in the NBA was a wrestling match. There is a line between what is legal contact and illegal contact. If you dont know where that line is, things can get or appear to get messy.

[BlueDevilRef]

I think the most prescient answer here is

No blood=no foul

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by potato

... and while it's easy to spot illegal contacts on players with the ball, it's quite difficult to spot illegal off-ball contacts unless it's too obvious.

Not true. Basketball officials subscribe to the concept of Primary Coverage Area to avoid not observing off-ball situations.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by potato

how much illegal contact is usually allowed, .

None.

Assuming the referee sees what happens, if he doesn't blow the whistle then s/he judged the contact to be legal.

[SC Official]

Depends on if it's a girls or wreck league game and I'm trying to get out of there ASAP.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

None.

Assuming the referee sees what happens, if he doesn't blow the whistle then s/he judged the contact to be legal.

Simply put but worth repeating. Officials do/should not allow any "illegal" contact. If there is no whistle then the official deemed the contact legal/incidental. For NFHS see rule 4-27-2.

Specific to off ball play, I like to pre-game that illegal contact off ball are things we should try to get early and consistently. Rerouting, holding, and obstructing cutters. Displacement in the post (both offense and defense), illegal screens, pushing through screens, etc. This applies to any level of play. The OP also referenced rebounding fouls where often repeated guidelines are to have whistles when there is possession consequence or to clean up rough play.

Generally speaking, the higher the skill level the more players are able to "play through" contact as they are less likely to have marginal contact prevent them from doing normal defensive or offensive movements. Therefore you will see more contact deemed legal.

As another general rule for off ball. If contact moves a player from point A to B and they didnt want to move from point A to B then we should have a foul.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by potato

So my question is in an officiated game, how much illegal contact is usually allowed

The answer is 4.76

[JRutledge]

Contact can be severe and not be illegal, according the the rulebook. Fouls are determined by illegal contact, not the severity of the contact. It is really that simple.

Peace

[UNIgiantslayers]

I don't even understand what OP is looking for here. Justification about officiating he disagreed with? It seems like he already knows the answer he is looking for.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

I don't even understand what OP is looking for here. Justification about officiating he disagreed with? It seems like he already knows the answer he is looking for.

You don't know Potato. He used to be fixated on travelling. Now it appears to be off-ball contact.

[Rich]

The only thing I know about potatoes is that I usually try to film with them.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

The only thing I know about potatoes is that I usually try to film with them.

Rich, don't you find that you normally get poor quality video?