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Old Fri Nov 18, 2016, 05:01pm
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Cylinder Plays

Here is the first one. I will post more as I find them.



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Old Fri Nov 18, 2016, 05:12pm
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Obviously we have the benefit of replay. I consider the cylinder to be closer than this. In the other player's jock. This is not that. Also, it doesn't seem there was much contact. Seeing replay maybe a pass was best. I certainly understand the call. Things happen fast. Split second decision...like most calls...Don't really think he had the angle to see the space between them. Maybe he did.

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Old Fri Nov 18, 2016, 05:35pm
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I like any call that goes against Michigan.

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Old Fri Nov 18, 2016, 06:29pm
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I don't get it.
I suspect I'm missing something here.
Is there some POE for NCAA-M that some of us don't know about?
What's this "cylinder" terminology as applied here?
What makes this any sort of defensive foul?

I reserve the right to be wrong, but it looked like the defender was easily within his vertical and that status was violated by the offensive player.

Help me understand this here.
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Old Fri Nov 18, 2016, 06:29pm
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One thing is certain...that wasn't a block...even considering the new NCAA interpretation. Oh, and I think that interpretation is ridiculous too. I think it will go the way of the upward motion experiment.
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Old Fri Nov 18, 2016, 09:07pm
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One this is certain...that wasn't a block...even considering the new NCAA interpretation. Oh, and I think that interpretation is ridiculous too. I think it will go the way of the upward motion experiment.
Actually this is not new this year. This was the interpretation or terminology used last year.

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Old Fri Nov 18, 2016, 09:10pm
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I don't get it.
I suspect I'm missing something here.
Is there some POE for NCAA-M that some of us don't know about?
What's this "cylinder" terminology as applied here?
What makes this any sort of defensive foul?

I reserve the right to be wrong, but it looked like the defender was easily within his vertical and that status was violated by the offensive player.

Help me understand this here.
This is really not so much a POE, this is just an interpretation of what they want called. They want players to stop crowding the ball handler or the ball handler throwing themselves into defenders. It is based on verticality, but there are other parts to this situation. I am not saying I agree with it, but this was addressed the last two years an big time this year in the NCAA videos to the coaches and officials. I think this is overall a bad rule, but I get why the rule is there.

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Old Tue Nov 22, 2016, 04:32am
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Chalk one up for the younger generation

My #1 son was involved in a mandatory rules clinic prior to a D1 pre-season game this fall. After a longwinded soliloquy by the crew chief, which left all the participants glassy-eyed and staring at the ceiling, he saved the day with the following...
"You guys play NBA Live video game? The yellow circles on the floor around each player is what we're talking about"
Instant nods of recognition by all the players involved.
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Old Tue Nov 22, 2016, 09:05am
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I don't get it.
I suspect I'm missing something here.
Is there some POE for NCAA-M that some of us don't know about?
What's this "cylinder" terminology as applied here?
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Anybody who is officiating NCAA-Men's basketball is well aware of the rule as it has been discussed (and bemoaned) at every preseason clinic and is on the preseason video.
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Old Tue Nov 22, 2016, 09:14am
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Anybody who is officiating NCAA-Men's basketball is well aware of the rule as it has been discussed (and bemoaned) at every preseason clinic and is on the preseason video.
Yup.
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Old Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:19am
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Anybody who is officiating NCAA-Men's basketball. . .
I'm not.
But I am interested.
Or shouldn't I be asking?
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Old Tue Nov 22, 2016, 10:35am
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I'm not.
But I am interested.
Or shouldn't I be asking?
My point only was that this play has been well-publicized and discussed going into the season, just maybe not here.
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Old Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:25pm
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I don't get it.
I suspect I'm missing something here.
Is there some POE for NCAA-M that some of us don't know about?
What's this "cylinder" terminology as applied here?
What makes this any sort of defensive foul?

I reserve the right to be wrong, but it looked like the defender was easily within his vertical and that status was violated by the offensive player.

Help me understand this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4hkblhCl-U

Go to the 13:30 mark to see cylinder discussion/interpretations/plays

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My #1 son was involved in a mandatory rules clinic prior to a D1 pre-season game this fall. After a longwinded soliloquy by the crew chief, which left all the participants glassy-eyed and staring at the ceiling, he saved the day with the following...
"You guys play NBA Live video game? The yellow circles on the floor around each player is what we're talking about"
Instant nods of recognition by all the players involved.
LOL!!! Nice! Cleared it up for me!
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