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SITUATION 11: Ten minutes before the scheduled starting time of the game, the Referee checks the scorebook for Team B and finds starters checked included player’s identified by number as 2, 35, 00, 31 and 0. RULING: A technical foul is assessed Team B for having 00 and 0 in the book. While 0 and 00 are legal numbers, a team may not have both 0 and 00 on the team roster. Either player No. 00 or player No. 0 will be required to change jersey numbers prior to being eligible for participation. (3-4-3, 10-1-2) 2008-2009 NFHS Interpretation: SITUATION 2: A team has members with No. 0 and No. 00 listed in the scorebook and it is discovered (a) with 14 minutes on the clock prior to the game, (b) with 8 minutes on the clock prior to the game or (c) after the game starts. RULING: In (a), changes can be made without penalty. In (b), if a number is changed in the scorebook, a team technical is charged. The offended team is awarded two free throws and a throw-in at the division line to begin the game. The arrow is toward the offending team. If no changes are made to the scorebook, no infraction has occurred. In (c), after the game starts, there is no infraction if only one of the team members (No. 0 or No. 00) participates. If the second team member wishes to participate, the result is an illegal number when "discovered." The penalty is a direct technical foul on the head coach for an illegal uniform. Two free throws and a division line throw-in for the offended team and loss of coaching box privileges for the offending coach. The second team member (with the illegal uniform number) may participate without further penalty and is NOT required to change his/her number. Another possibility exists after the game starts when one of the team members wants to change his/her number prior to participating. The result is a team technical foul (no loss of coaching box) for changing the scorebook. COMMENT: No team should have both No. 0 and No. 00 on its regular roster. The infraction is likely due to bringing a player up or down a level. Therefore, it is possible the team has access to other legal uniforms to replace a uniform with an illegal number. (3-4-3d; 10-1-2; 10-5-4)
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Personally, this rule seems unnecessarily silly. An official can signal 00 or he can signal 0. No difference. we allow 33 and 3, don't we.
(And yes ... I believe 05 and 5 should be legal for the very same reason) If they really have an issue with this, make 0 or 00 (or both) not legal.
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Fri Nov 18, 2016, 05:23pm
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That said, most rules that seem silly evolve from some incident in the past that gave rise to their origin.* I'd be interested if there is such a history with this rule. * Good example: Some NCAA D1 title game several years back started with a held ball before the AP procedure had been established. So the two players involved then jumped. Apparently people took issue with this, feeling that the two centers should be allowed to jump again. The very next year, the rule was changed to allow this. Had this not happened in a D1 tourney game, I doubt anyone would ever have given two poops about it.
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Because of the way computers work, there is no way for them to distinguish between 0 and 00, or 5 and 05, in some cases. I'm of the firm belief that there should not be a T if there's a feasible case of computer error. I stress I'm not an official in any sport, but the last thing I want to see is a "technicality technical", if you know what I mean.
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05 and 5 (or 0 and 00) are equivalent only if the uniform number is stored as an Integer. If they're stored as a String, 05 and 5 are not identical. About the only real reason you'd store uniform number as an Integer is to make sorting easier... sorting Integers in numerical order (as you would expect in a box score) is easier than sorting Strings in numerical order... with Strings, the default order will be something like this: 0 00 02 03 1 01 12 14 2 22 25 3 31 32 34 etc.
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Two math degrees later....and I'm a marketing executive.  But you have me curious now since I did do that as a work study job in 1993. Apparently we went to school together?
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And the sorting is why I assumed they store the digits as integers. Could be wrong. Always hated programming.
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BTW, the new science center is very nice (but I think the math department is still in the other science center). The football field is now turf, and they are building a facility by the kiln for soccer, field hockey and tennis.
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10+ years of officiating and I never came across this situation in a high school game...until tonight, just days after I read these interpretations. I was the R and addressed with Coach B. Of course, he said, "we've played 6 games and nobody has said anything." To which I replied, "someone isn't doing their job." He took it in stride and decided to not play #0 to avoid the T.
Thanks for the post, Freddy!
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