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Old Mon Nov 28, 2016, 03:16pm
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I've seen it - but never seen it called

Shooter gets a pass in the corner for a 3 point try. He takes a quick baby hop before jumping into his shot - I think that is a travel by rule - do you call that?
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I've called it a few times.
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Old Mon Nov 28, 2016, 03:19pm
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I've called it, several times. It does get missed a lot though. The times I've called it, a defensive player was running at the shooter, and the shooter does it do avoid the defensive player to get a clean look.
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I have also called is several times if it is obvious. I try not to nitpick this, but often it is very obvious and I even called in Saturday in my game. Again much of this is judgment.

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Old Mon Nov 28, 2016, 03:41pm
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Like Rut, I call it when it's obvious and leave it alone when it's not. Sometimes it's quite obviously a legal jump stop, so you can't call it even if you just called it on the other team who did it wrong.
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Shooter gets a pass in the corner for a 3 point try. He takes a quick baby hop before jumping into his shot - I think that is a travel by rule - do you call that?
Coaches here takes notice of it and complain when it is not called, especially when used to create space from the defender.
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Old Mon Nov 28, 2016, 04:02pm
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Not always a travel if not done correctly. Lower level games is nearly always a travel.
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If it creates an advantage hoping away from the defense its a travel?

If they hop giving the defense more time to defend it then its not a travel?

And its the same hop. No dribble picking up the pivot and putting it down.
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If it creates an advantage hoping away from the defense its a travel?

If they hop giving the defense more time to defend it then its not a travel?


And its the same hop. No dribble picking up the pivot and putting it down.
Who said this?
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Since when does advantage/disadvantage matter on violations?
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Since when does advantage/disadvantage matter on violations?
Ten second free throw count?
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Since when does advantage/disadvantage matter on violations?


Three second violations certainly are, especially by officials I want to work with.
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If it creates an advantage hoping away from the defense its a travel?

If they hop giving the defense more time to defend it then its not a travel?

And its the same hop. No dribble picking up the pivot and putting it down.
You've just put words in peoples mouths... no one said this at all.
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Old Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:35am
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You've just put words in peoples mouths... no one said this at all.
Those statements end with a "?'.

I do love however how quickly folks appear defensive about a super grey area in refereeing.

Clearing we pointed out a D1 guy allows a coach on the court touching his players and its clearly a foul and yet it is not called.

Where I am from bunny hops are rarely called. It should appear to be the easiest call in the world.

We clearly let 3 seconds go or travels go with no defense within 50 feet.

Basketball is hard because there is so much judgement and contact and things that can be done with a dribble, etc.

I have a pretty good idea when I am going to call a bunny hop and when I will not. I just look for gems from you vets as to what might alter my grey area this way or that way.

Jumping down my throat for a question.. well that doesnt bother me any more.

Carry on!
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Those statements end with a "?'.

I do love however how quickly folks appear defensive about a super grey area in refereeing.

Clearing we pointed out a D1 guy allows a coach on the court touching his players and its clearly a foul and yet it is not called.

Where I am from bunny hops are rarely called. It should appear to be the easiest call in the world.

We clearly let 3 seconds go or travels go with no defense within 50 feet.

Basketball is hard because there is so much judgement and contact and things that can be done with a dribble, etc.

I have a pretty good idea when I am going to call a bunny hop and when I will not. I just look for gems from you vets as to what might alter my grey area this way or that way.

Jumping down my throat for a question.. well that doesnt bother me any more.

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