Officials protesting anthem–SCHSL speaks

[Matt]

Originally Posted by BigCat

DRJ1960

I could have given you a better response but 8:50 is late for me. This is what I know I would say to one of my friends and frankly, if i have something to say im not one to hold my tongue so id probably say something similar to anybody who asked me...

"I'm sure you've heard we are here to do a job, and we are here for kids and this isnt the right time or right place. I agree with that thinking...but kneeling is legal, we live in the greatest country on earth. Try kneeling in Saudi Arabia etc...you would be missing your head and your arm..and not in that order. If you want to kneel then kneel. What i would tell you though is i dont think your helping your cause. you are trying to call attention to a problem in this country. When i see you kneel, it makes me think of how great this country is. When you kneel out there tonight, there probably wont be many people thinking like I do.

But do you know what those people and I have in common? Neither of us are thinking about your issue. I'm thinking how great the country is when you want me to see a problem with it and others are thinking how ungrateful/disrespectful you are and wont hear a thing you have to say. You need people to hear you and be moved to action. There are many many reasonable people in this country who will not give you the time of day because your kneeling. If you want change you need people to listen, you need them to want to act on your issue. Kneeling just doesnt do it. If your goal is to piss alot of people off, well then that will do it. That wont bring about change. Go to a city council meeting, run for election...

That's a lot of words for "sit down and know your place, because your problems aren't relevant to the majority."

The whole problem is that dialogue isn't working. As MLK Jr. said, yes, the point is to have a dialogue...but that won't happen until the majority is made so uncomfortable that they have to.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Matt

That's a lot of words for "sit down and know your place, because your problems aren't relevant to the majority."

The whole problem is that dialogue isn't working. As MLK Jr. said, yes, the point is to have a dialogue...but that won't happen until the majority is made so uncomfortable that they have to.

Matt,

My partners know me well enough that they wouldnt take it that way. My point is simply that I hear people talking about Colin Kaepernick and who else is or isnt going to kneel. I dont hear enough about the issues. The issue is powerful enough on its own. Some of those videos were very powerful and made people think/address it. The protest has taken the focus off the issues. I'd focus more on the videos and the actual issue. That's my view. If anybody wants to kneel that's their choice and their right. As I said earlier, I'll do my job.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Matt,

My partners know me well enough that they wouldnt take it that way. My point is simply that I hear people talking about Colin Kaepernick and who else is or isnt going to kneel. I dont hear enough about the issues. The issue is powerful enough on its own. Some of those videos were very powerful and made people think/address it. The protest has taken the focus off the issues. I'd focus more on the videos and the actual issue. That's my view. If anybody wants to kneel that's their choice and their right. As I said earlier, I'll do my job.

I think that was his point. Most of the people bitching about the "protesting" don't even comprehend the issue(s). They just want to, and most likely like to, bitch about everything they disagree with.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by deecee

I think that was his point. Most of the people bitching about the "protesting" don't even comprehend the issue(s). They just want to, and most likely like to, bitch about everything they disagree with.

I think he said dialogue wasnt working. I tend to agree with that. But in my opinion some of those videos were working. Right wrong or whatever, if you can get public opinion on your side your chances to create change are much better. I think some of the videos were and do sway public opinion. Keep those in the forefront, find others. Those make people uncomfortable. Stay on that. Now i hear who's kneeling and who isnt. I would say stay on message.