Illegal box out

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by johnny d

And you are going to call what type of infraction for this? Certainly not a personal foul, since the way it is described makes it sound as though there hasn't been any contact. Sounds to me like a something similar to the team that sets moving screens all day, but the defensive players are too dumb to run into the screen, and instead get put at a huge disadvantage and try to go around the person setting the illegal screen. Since an illegal screen is a personal foul, not a violation, there isn't really anything against the rules until there is contact between the two players.

In NCAA-M's it would be a foul for invading the personal cylinder.

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[johnny d]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

In NCAA-M's it would be a foul for invading the personal cylinder.

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Invading the personal cylinder is not a foul until the invading person illegally contacts the opponent. It is not a foul to simply be within another player's cylinder.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Invading the personal cylinder is not a foul until the invading person illegally contacts the opponent. It is not a foul to simply be within another player's cylinder.

Well duh

Point being if there is contact based on this positioning, it will be illegal contact on the defender under NCAA-M's rules.